New D-55 in Signature !! Plus a review

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I recently took delivery of a 2007 D-55, Antique Burst. Kudos for G&G Classic Guitars (http://www.gandgclassicguitars.com). What an awesome internet dealer. Absolute rock bottom price, and Chris Rosato was incredibly friendly, accommodating, and professional in all of our communications and dealings. It was an enjoyable and fun purchasing experience. He worked with me to obtain some details I wanted (but was partially stifled by the Guild rep) and to coordinate some special shipping timing. Highly recommended to anyone looking to purchase a new Guild. (The Guild rep seemed to have a “Take what we ship” attitude. Not a please-the-customer attitude.)

The guitar:
I play mainly finger style, and my two Taylors suit me very well for that. I used to have an old Epiphone dreadnought as a beater, but I sold it when I purchased my Seagull S6 Folk as a better “casual” guitar. Although a smaller body folk model, the Seagull is a cannon with volume and sustain like a dreadnought, and it and the memories of the Epiphone got me looking at dreadnoughts for a strumming guitar.

I’ve never liked Martins, never played a Gibson that really thrilled me, and all of the Taylor dreadnoughts I tried sounded too similar to my 814ce. So I was looking at Guild dreadnoughts. Long story short, I ended up going with the new sunburst D-55, ‘cause I missed out on purchasing an older Westerly sunburst D-55. I confess I got hung up on the aesthetics of the sunburst D-55, and after reading lots of good reviews of the new Tacoma Guilds, decided to go with a new sunburst rather than an older natural-top Westerly off of e-bay.

Well I could not be more pleased with the tone and playability of the new D-55. I used to say that my Taylor 814ce was a guitar that sang. Still true, but I would have to say that the D-55 is a choir. The Taylor 814 can not handle heavy strumming, but the D-55 just sounds better and better the more you lay into it.

Someone in an earlier post referred to the sound of a D-55 as regal or majestic, or something like that. I would agree 100%. Its not a real punchy dreadnought like a more classic bluegrass dred, but it is full and rich and very evenly balanced between the strings. For me, it’s the sound in my head that says dreadnought for strumming to accompany vocals.

Its not the type of guitar that I like for finger style because the sustain and response time are too much. The notes blend together too much. But that’s just my taste. I also do not like it as well for finger style because of the 1-11/16 inch nut. I prefer the 1-3/4 nut (wider string spacing) of my Taylors for finger style.

But all in all its just a wonderful guitar, and I highly recommend it to anyone looking for a dreadnought.

I replaced the tortoise shell pick guard with a black one that Chris Rosato got for me. But that’s just aesthetics. I didn’t like the look of the tortoise guard. I’ll post a separate thread about changing the pick guard ‘cause there was a surprise.

Nitpicking:
The new Guild catalog that I received with the guitar lists the D-55 as the flagship model of Guild’s line. So since Guild is promoting it as the best they can do, I don’t think it is unfair on my part to critique the quality of the build. So here are some opinions on fit and finish. I have no issues with the really important issues of tone and playability; they are great.

The pluses: The rosette and the peg head inlays are perfect. The frets are very neatly polished and dressed and properly leveled - no buzzing or other issues. The nut is cut correctly. The body binding, peg head binding, and back inlay strip are perfect. The finish on the sides and back is perfect. It has side fret marker dots in the binding at the 14th and 16th frets, even though it is not a cutaway; I wish my Taylor cutaways had these. I dropped the action down about 1/64th to 6/64ths on both sides, but that is just a personal preference issue. From the factory it was not bad.

Where Guild/Fender could have done better -
The fret board inlays themselves are very well done, but larger fret board inlays, up to the 7th fret, have a small dimple in the ebony fret board at each corner of the inlay. Perhaps locating marks or something, but they should have been filled with wood dust and glue.

The fret board binding on the treble side is perfect, but on the bass side, the binding has small areas chipped out between the 14th and 20th frets. Not real easy to see with the naked eye. The chipped-out areas appear darker. They will probably get darker still with time as they collect dirt. They can be felt if you run you finger tip over them.

The finish on the spruce top is o.k., but not perfect. There are numerous small pores that were not completely filled with finish and leveled with the top. It could have used more finish sanding and another coat or two. (In contrast, the tops of my Taylors are absolutely glass smooth, all over. No pores.)

The truss rod cover is misaligned. The bottom screw is about 1/16 inch off center, so the truss rod cover is crooked.

The bridge pins are not all the same color. Three of them are a matte white, and three of them are a glossy off-white color. The colors are alternated across the bridge. Maybe this is some assembler’s idea of artsy, but I don’t like it. With all of the abalone on the fret board, I think this guitar needs pins with abalone dots, Not a huge deal, but I’ll probably replace these sometime.

Guild boasts about having a strap button support block inside the guitar, but in my opinion, the strap button at the neck is in the wrong place. Oh its in the support block, but the guitar is neck heavy. So if you’re standing using a strap, and you let go of the guitar, the neck falls toward the floor. (I even use a suede strap, not a slippery nylon or leather one.) The button should be on the bass side of the heel, like a Taylor, or the bass side of the body so that the heavy neck is supported by the strap and the guitar is balanced when wearing a strap.

The strap button at the bottom of the guitar pulled out when I put the strap on. No big deal to me, but if I were a less experienced player I might think that the guitar was broken and be very upset! Normally, I would just glue it back in, but I installed a K&K pickup system with an end pin jack. So that replaced the pin anyway.

Finally, the case. The case is well constructed, but its not the snug-as-a-bug-in-a-rug fit that I’m used to with my Taylor cases. The guitar can slide around about 1/4 to 3/8 of an inch when inside the case. Thus, in my opinion, the case should have about 3/8 inch thicker padding to snug the guitar better. The lid strap is so short that the lid does not open to 90°. Thus, you have to be careful to not bump the guitar against the exposed latches, and to hold the lid open to protect against case bite. I’ll probably cut the strap and sew on an extension.

Overall, this is a great guitar. I think it is a superb value. My Taylors cost about $700 and $600 per pound. This D-55 cost a bit more than $300 per pound. So it is a lot of guitar for the price. I’m only nitpicking because of the “flagship” marketing. I think they could do better. For fit and finish I would give it a low A with my Taylors as the reference at an A+. Or to use another analogy, for fit and finish it’s a Cadillac, but not a Mercedes. I guess its what I would expect from a Fender company; good but not top shelf.

I’m just so pleased that it sounds as great as it does. I did not buy this as a museum or collector's piece. Like the Guild motto: “Made to be Played”, and that’s what I bought it for. It gives me that other voice that I’ve been missing in my guitar family. At a bit more than half the price, it will do things that my Taylors (and the 810 Taylors that I’ve played) cannot do. I would buy another one with no hesitation. It’s a great guitar! Here are sone pics, but the colors are not this bizarre. Not a good color rendition from my digital camera.
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And here is my new extended guitar family (acoustics).

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Very nice, well thought-out, well written review, cjd. Thanks for posting it.

Taylor certainly makes some very pretty guitars. I've been very impressed by most of the ones I've seen and played - especially the high-end ones like yours!. But it almost never fails that whoever gets close to my D-55 comments on what a beautiful guitar it is. I sure hope someone from Fender/Guild/Tacoma sees your review and appreciates the knowledgable, objective A/B comparison.

Congratulations on your D-55!
 

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Excellent post. Great observations.

Questions about your Seagull. Who cut the sound port into it? Did it make much of a difference?

The Taylors are beautiful, what's the overall difference between the 12 and the 14?
 

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Excellent, well-thought out review. I'm especially grateful you mentioned the minuses as well as the +'s. I'm also grateful you compared it with a guitar I know well and love, the Taylor 814CE.

I would not be as forgiving as you. Strap pins should not fall out of new $2000 + guitars. The top should be perfect on $2000 + guitars. And the truss rod cover should be aligned properly on $2000 + guitars. If it is the best Fender can do - it's not good enough.

I'm glad the sound lives up to the legend. And I still want one. But I would not be forgiving about misaligned truss rod covers or strap pegs that fell out as you are. I wouldn't put up with a finish that was less than perfect either.
 

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I agree with Marcellis. The shortcomings you describe are significant for an instrument that goes for two grand. Brand new means you have the right to have a flawless guitar at that price. I will say however, that I think your cosmetic problems are not an indication of overall Guild quality. Every new Tacoma instrument I have played so far has been flawless. The quality is certainly equal to anything that ever came out of Westerly. I can't comment on the GAD instruments.
 

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Guild isn't the only manufacturer having quality control issues with finishes.

Yesterday I stopped in the local shop looking for the latest copy of Acoustic Guitar mag, course I had to take a look in the high end room.

Lo an behold !!! There was a new Sunburst Taylor Drednaught hanging on the wall, stunningly beautiful thing, $2800, magnificent sounding.
Sorry I never even looked inside so I don't know the model number, it had the Taylor electronics with the dip switches. Non cutaway.
Nice freeaking guitar. Couldn't say it was 200% better than the 1400 D 40 BJ hanging next to it, but for sure a nice guitar.

Looking at it closely, the pores in the rosewood were not filled, the entire body was covered with tiny pores. Couldn't see them from 3 ft away, but looking close they were there.

Is it possible there is an intentional trade off here; sacrifice a perfectly flawless slick finish for a thin finish that enhances tone.

Most of the GAD's I've seen are finished perfectly, for some reason they don't sound nearly as good as the Tacoma builts. Mebbbe the thick coat of finish is part of the reason.
 

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Not a statement, but intended as a question. I would think there's the possibility that you might not want to cover all the pores. Seriously, would exposed pores enhance the wood's ability to breathe?

I just looked closely at my rosewoods, on the D55 you can't see any wood pores on the back. On the DV72 and DV73, you can see pores of the back wood. The finish looks great, but upon close inspection, you can make out pores in the wood. That's why I thought it might be intentional, either to allow the wood to breathe, or to allow it to vibrate via a thinner finish.

Then again, I suppose it could have just depended on who was finishing the guitar that day.

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Graham said:
Excellent post. Great observations.

Questions about your Seagull. Who cut the sound port into it? Did it make much of a difference?

The Taylors are beautiful, what's the overall difference between the 12 and the 14?

Grahm: Thanks for your (and others) kind comments about my post and review. As to your questions:

1. I cut the sound port in my Seagull. I do amature abeit somewhat higher end woodworking as a hobby, so it was not a big deal. From all that I have read about sound ports, they don't make a negative impact on front projection, and some even claim that front projection is increased. Check out http://www.mcknightguitars.com and look under Options then Sound Ports. The big plus is that you hear your guitar better as you play it. I wanted to try one out, so I cut it in the S6 that I got fairly cheap off of e-bay. I'm very very pleased with the result (the sound, that is). I would seriously consider cutting them in my other guitars, except for the fear that the ports would make the guitars very hard to sell. Not that I'm planing on selling any of them, but never say never, right?. Here's a better look at it.

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2. The difference between the 812 and the 814. Let me start by saying that you'll get lots of different opinions, so let me lay the ground work. I play with natural finger nails and a Fred Kelly Slick Pick thumb pick. People who play with bare fingers or finger picks might feel differently about different guitars. My 812ce is 2003, so thats from before Taylor increased the body depth of the X12 guitars by 1/4 inch. My 814ce is from after Taylor revoiced the 814's (bracing shifted forward and perimeter relief route).

For me the biggest difference between my 812ce and my 814ce is response time. The shallower body depth of the 812ce gives an almost immediate response when I play a note. There is a longer response time in the larger body 814ce. What this means to me is that individual notes are more clearly distinguished on the 812ce. There is also less sustain, so the shorter decay also helps keep the notes separated. But response time and sustain are two different issues. I'm not saying as an absolute that quicker response and less sustain are better for finger style, just that I like those two qualities better for my type of finger style.

The flip side of that is that the sustain of the 814ce is beautiful... a glorious wash of sound. Its also an excellent finger style guitar, but the notes are not as distinct and mix together a little more. Again, certainly not a bad thing. For me, if I do an instrumental solo, I use the 812ce. If I'm accompanying a vocalist using fingerstyle, I use the 814ce. In that case the added sustain and blended notes give a fuller sound for accompanyment.

Other differences: the 812ce is more comfortable to hold standing up (especially with my mid-life waist line protrusion). My 812ce has a redwood top. The 814ce has a sitka spruce top. So the 812ce is more mellow, similar to a cedar top. The 812ce sound somewhat more like a classical guitar.

The 812ce is not a strong strumming guitar. It sounds o.k. with light strumming, but not too good if you go at it. The 814 is better at strumming, but not as good as a dreadnought.

So for me, they are for two different toping flavors on the ice cream sunday of finger picking. Sometimes you want hot fudge, sometimes you want butterscotch. Both are yummy. (Now you also understand my waist line potrusion!)

Now throw the D-55 into the mix, and part of its glorious tone is the long sustain. So for the way I play finger style, the sustain is too much, and for me it is not an ideal finger style guitar. But man, for strumming, it blows the Taylors out of the room!!!. So to continue the anaolgy, I guess its like adding chocalate chip cherry ice cream under the sunday topping! A major sugar blast.
 

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For those of you commenting on the top finish and other fit and finish issues: I would have to say that while I was expecting a good guitar, frankly, I was not expecting a Taylor or other high-end quality level from a Fender company. Not to say that Taylor does not have screw ups as well. I know of fret board inlays falling out, binding problems, case problems, etc. But right or wrong, my impression is that Taylor can make a perfect guitar in terms of fit and finish. The harsh reality is that I would never expect that from a Fender company, and I did not get it from a Fender company on a so-called flagship model. If I had paid what I paid for a Taylor, then I would have been somewhat upset. Even with the so-called defects, I would not trade this for another one unless the other one sounded much better. So I wouldn't even think of rejecting it because of how much I like the sound.

But enough of the negative. As I said, I bought this to play it. I have the guitars I have because of how they play and sound. The fact that folks think they look nice is a plus, but not the main deal. The D-55 will get some dings and scratches along the way, so the fit and finish nitpicking will become a moot point, and the issues I mentioned would not be noticed by anyone listening to or casually looking at the guitar. When I played my Taylors at my daughter's wedding back in July, only about 4 or 5 people could actually see the guitars well. I wasn't "showing" the guitars, I was there to play. If you're listening to a great player with a banged up guitar, what do you think: CHARACTER, not defect (except maybe Willie Nelson's :lol: ). Its a great guitar, guys. :D
 
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