My Willy and I - Willy Porter Signature review

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Introduction:
One would almost think guitarist Willy Porter aimed a bit high when he got himself involved with Guild in the Contemporary Series development process, which eventually led to this; his signature model. Designed to have a voice broad enough to handle rhytm and soloing Porter style in one instrument and, essentially "be a keeper" in mr Porter's own words, could this be the do-it-all guitar I've been looking for for so long? Having to by the instrument sight-unseen and not a string strum, I decided to go with this model.


Build and features (4.5/5):
Some may say a hallmark of a quality instrument is a dove-tail (or scarf) neckjoint, this because making a dove-tail is a timeconsuming and hence costy affair. Bolt-on necks can, if concieved and executed right, transfer vibrations just as good as a well executed dove-tail, but will sound vastly different; brighter. For instance Taylor, Collings and Bourgeoise, to mention a few, use bolt-on necks exclusively.

The approach Guild has taken with the Contemporary Series is a highly advanced one where graphite has been utilised to make the neck an easily detachable, yet integral part of the instrument. Quite a daunting task to take on since rigidity and servicability/ detachability are on either end of the scale - or used to be.

It's basically sprung out of the same mold as the F40 Valencia with floretine (sharp) cutaway, featuring a sitka top over fiddle back maple back and sides, with a graphite reinforced mahogany neck and Madagascar RW bridge and fingerboard. The madagascar RW is also used for the faceplate and rosette. Ivoroid bindings (that look fab - take it from me). Abalone and MOP inlays of the fretboard (abalone dots that are hard to make out)and faceplate, the latter with the new love-it-or-hate-it G-shield. Tuners are of the smooth, open back variety, nut and saddle of course are bone, as are (some of) the string pins.

So far no features out of the ordinary for a Contemporary Series. What set this guitar apart from the others are the more subtle rosette and P/W binding and backstrip package, making it a fine blend between new and old. Last but not least the string pins for the treble strings have been changed from bone to ebony, more of that later on.

The build quality measures up to any of the other great brands but compared to e.g. Martin you get all the fancy PW features for way less money. Choice of wood is more relative to the pricelevel while by no means being inferior.


Tone and action/ playability (4/5 (largely due to the neck issue)):Having played it for 2 weeks exclusively, the top having really shook loose and done the intital opening up tonewise a few things are revealed. The typical Guild 'wroong' in the mids and bass is all there (perhaps not so much Caterpillar tractor-truck engine but more of a purring Chevy big block), as is the rounded and slightly compressed, bell like, response of the top. The maple lends a firmness and transparency to the tone of the instrument as is expected. Here ends most things we know and can relate to from decades of guitar manufacture from Guilds plants around the US.

It doesn't have much of that 'baat-baat', truck-horn type of sound most of us would associate with Guild. The treble never rolls off that abruptly. Instead the neck construction gives the instrument a spacious high end without being pinned as bright. Pushing the envelope even higher is the Madagascar RW that lends a nice, ringing, bright-but-not-piercing quality to the tone, in effect a rather light and soothing treble playing chords.

Giving it that last bit of shimmer are the ebony string pins. The difference becomes clear playing the third and forth string in succession. Should one somehow find the definition a tad too much, digging in hard or using fingerpicks perhaps, a simple mod would be replacing these with bone. For soloing and 'soft tip fingerpicking' I appreciate the increase of twang these provide though. There's a clear 'knocking two pieces of firewood together' thing happening playing the unwound strings with that touch of 'clang' in the attack.

I intentionally will leave the pickup and microphone system out in this review, this of two reasons: I haven't bothered to fit the bag for holding the battry and the songs available on the WP homepage (http://www.willyporter.com) recorded using this system I feel make the rounded tone of the instrument rather synthetic and all of its character is vanished. It could just as well have been a Godin nylon hybrid. I'm rather excited about the microphone though, and will experiment with using i maybe in conjunction with a K&K pure pickup system.

The nut is the 1-3/4" all Contemporaries have that is a welcome feature for many fingerpickers and guitarists with larger size hands or otherwise prefer this width of nut. The full 25.5" scale over a glossy neck gives it something of a Gibson feel, however the narrow waist and rather low profile body make me think of it more of a close friend or a piece of clothing rather than a bulky, 16" wide acoustic instrument. The low profile, however, doesn't make it that loud you sometimes might wish it was.

The nut could be lowered to ease the effort for the chording fingers and the saddle leaves much room for lowering the action if desired. The latter is of little use though since the fretboard extension clearly has a negative bowing going and consequently the action is at its highest around the 12th fret. This causes buzz taking advantage of the increased reach the cutaway offers. The graphite spider that bears up the entire upper bout being designed to prevent distortion of this portion of the top in the long run not being able aid for a flat top when new is an enigma to me.


Verdict (4.5/5):
So, did Willy Porter get the kind of intrument he aimed for? Evidently the WP sign is an understated, beautiful instrument that is well built and has the bottom end of a Grand Concert into which the high end of a smaller instrument is blended. I'm sure it would replace many babys' nickelodeons, which it resembles tonally to some degree, and is soothing enough to actually even make the proudest of parent fall asleep - all this meant in a good way. No frequency band is accentuated particularly. Does fingerpicking well without sounding archetypically folky, does flatpicking with a nice drive without sounding dry and rather harsh. It certainly met my criteria for this purchase.

Would I like to have the purchase reversed, if even the least bit? No. The issue about the neck obviously lowers the over all impression, as does the fancy but nearly invisible markers of abalone inlaid into the fingerboard. I think I'm rather hooked on Contemporaries, to tell you the truth, as I find with these Guild have done away with those tiny details I never liked about what's now known as Traditional Series guitars. Having said that a brand new Contemporary sound nothing like what a 20-30 yo goode olde Guild can offer and the door is not shut tight on buying a Guild of traditional design in future. Btw who knows what this darling will sound like in a few decades? Probably will hold up well over time, though, that much is true.


Credits:
The guitar was strung with JP 80/20 Lights and tested in my livingroom, my office and my kitchen, sometimes played against walls and inside corners for full reflection. It was tuned to concert tuning, frequently using capo at the first or second fret to facilitate assessment of the properties of the wood used for the fretboard.

Please provide me with any feedback and feel free to ask any questions.
 

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Jonas,

Very nice, detailed, and pragmatic review. Great job and one of the best reviews I have seen. I particularly enjoyed the description of the sound characteristics, and the rest of the review was eloquently illustrated as well. :D

When I get my CD-1 (???) I hope to do half as good a job.
 

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ajgorman said:
Jonas,

Very nice, detailed, and pragmatic review. Great job and one of the best reviews I have seen. I particularly enjoyed the description of the sound characteristics, and the rest of the review was eloquently illustrated as well. :D

When I get my CD-1 (???) I hope to do half as good a job.
Thank you, Mate! I thought it would be justifiably motivated to put focus on the tonal characteristics in-depth; partly because it's not the usual treatment for a review and partly because this model was tuned for a purpose. I do have a tendency of getting too conscise though.

I'll be looking forward to reading your review, AJ! As you know I'm very interested in that particular model, which most likely will be my next purchase - or maybe the CO-2C. I'm quite sure your review will turn out great and could well be the finger on the trigger for me.


P.S. I'm sure you know this already but I would recommend you to play it for at least a week before putting things into words in order for the top to shake loose properly and aquainting yourself with the instrument.
 

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Wow, it was great to read your review, Jonas! Thanks for all of the time and thought you put into it, as it gives me a lot of that information about the Willy that I have been Jonesing for. Doesn't sound like you were at all disappointed with the guitar, except for the neck issue, of course.
One thing I think you did not mention was the finish on your WP: do you have the natural or one of the sunbursts and how does it look to your eye?
 

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zplay said:
Wow, it was great to read your review, Jonas! Thanks for all of the time and thought you put into it, as it gives me a lot of that information about the Willy that I have been Jonesing for. Doesn't sound like you were at all disappointed with the guitar, except for the neck issue, of course.
One thing I think you did not mention was the finish on your WP: do you have the natural or one of the sunbursts and how does it look to your eye?
Thanx, mate! It's always a good feeling when things you do for your own pleasure and pass-time get appreciated by others. I actually have some sort of cold in my system

I wish I would have had time to wait for the ITB finished ones to get back in stock as I'm a sucker for a nice sunburst (espec on maple), although I have never owned one (my D212 is by all means an SB, although that's more of a finish of function rather than one of beauty). That dealer only had one WP and it was a Blonde one, but then I guess blondes have more fun... ;) Getting to think of it I neither mentioned the outer coating of the WP, which of course is nitrocellulouse.

Although this finish wouldn't have been my first pick I find it visually stunning and kind of reassures me no-one tried to hide any blemish or inferior wood under some coat of paint. Also I wasn't sure how that rather redish Madagascar RW would have complimented/ contrasted to a burst finish seeing the instrument in the flesh.

There's a commercial that runs now on Swedish TV and you can immediately pin that acoustic guitar played on the soundtrack as a Guild. This fellow is far from that obvious eventhough the top responds in a very Guild like manner. That was probably the main reason for my hesitance of buying it: would it sound like the instrument in those songs on the web, and even so would my feelings be as strong in a year or two when the initial infatuation has run out?
 

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Just thought I'd post an update on this thingie: The tone seems to grow day by day, beit in ever so small increments, and it appears as if it's about twice as loud as when I made the review. Could be it's slowly "coming around", as I was informed by Zplay that Willy Porter himself once put it. Now it exhibits the most marvelous fat Guild tone, yet laiden with the most exuberent shimmer. It's like pure magic and I love the guit more every day that passes.

There is however a distinct rattle or buzz probably originating from the saddle or string pins that appears to be centred around the third string or so. Since it's to go to the doctor some day soon about that neck issue, I'll have him remove the piezo and re-seat the saddle - and hopefully any unwanted noise will be gone with.

PS. Unless it's against the purpose of this forum I'd love to see more reviews, reviews of any sort really.

PPS. I'm sure noone picked up on the joke of the title with reference to the male member. I had something more obvious in mind for a title before I posted the review.
 

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sitka_spruce said:
PPS. I'm sure noone picked up on the joke of the title with reference to the male member. I had something more obvious in mind for a title before I posted the review.

Not me. :wink:

Actually took me a few days to even wander into this room with a title like that. :shock:

But just like a car wreck I guess I wanted to see your Willy for myself, you know, to size up against all the rumours and such. :oops:
 

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Sorry to hear about your rattling Willy, Sitka. - Can't say as I've experienced this ... but then again , I wear underwear. :lol:
- I've heard that this is not always the custom in Europe; could that be true? :shock:

Anyway, I'm glad to hear about the tonal progress with your WP. I can say something similar with my CV-2C, though I was surprised how noticeable it was after just a couple of weeks of steady play.
It seems that the tightness in the trebles is gone, Baby! - As you say, fat and strong all the way up the neck. And the bass has so much authority! I'm very pleased that I sprung for this guitar. Maple is new for me and I'm really enjoying it.

By the way, I lifted the following section contributed by a luthier form a current discussion of rattling noises on the AGF. You might want to follow this thread over there ....


A few possibilities...

a loose wire related to the pickup
a loose washer in the jack in the tailblock
a splinter of wood "blowout" from drilling the jack hole in the tailblock
a loose washer or screw on one of the tuners
a low nut slot
a back-bowed neck
a low saddle
a high fret in front of or behind the 9th
a low 9th fret
a truss rod that's floating "in neutral"
a peculiarity of that string

Here's the link .... http://69.41.173.82/forums/showthread.php?t=119286
 

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sitka_spruce said:
PS. Unless it's against the purpose of this forum I'd love to see more reviews, reviews of any sort really.

PPS. I'm sure noone picked up on the joke of the title with reference to the male member. I had something more obvious in mind for a title before I posted the review.

Personally I don't understand Graham's issue with the thread title. Sitka, man to man, show up here with your Willie, guaranteed I'll ask to play with it.

I bought My CO 1 from an E bay secondary seller, good enough deal & a sweet guitar but I probably would have turned it down new in a shop. Like your Willie the action on my CO1 from the factory wasn't so hot. I took it to a pretty sharp Guild authorized repair facility, figured he could remove the bolt on neck fairly easily & adjust the action. Apparently the neck isn't all that removeable, & the luthier shaved the saddle & slotted the bridge for the high E & B strings. Action is okay now, plays well, could be better, slotting the bridge did improve sound from strings involved.

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My CO1's been neglected, I'm taking lessons & practicing mostly with the Starfire. Been popping a G string on the Starfire about every 10.
days.

Fooling around with Graham's song I heard myself unintentionally muting strings on the F20, F 20 has a skinny 1 5/8 in fretboard, sort of like a violin neck, verry cool neck & fun to play, but it's crowded & unforgiving.

I picked up the CO1 because it has a wider 1 3/4 " fretboard & requires significantly less concentration to play clean. Lessons & practice are paying off, even a blind squirrell finds a acorn ocassionally & my skill is improving. Don't know if the guitar changed or my technique, anyway, I was taken back by it "Big" presence. Not so much volume but sweet open chords with muscle, nice sweet chimey bass with more roar than I remembered, really likes to be firmly fingerpicked.

A good picker could probably fool ya into thinking it was a bigger guitar. I've had the guitar for quite a while & pick it pretty regular but yesterday it reallly jumped out & grew on me.
 

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Awesome review, Jonas. Thanks for taking time to put it together. Have you posted the review on Harmony Central?
 

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zplay said:
Sorry to hear about your rattling Willy, Sitka. - Can't say as I've experienced this ... but then again , I wear underwear. :lol:
- I've heard that this is not always the custom in Europe; could that be true? :shock:
Well, we got those Scottish people and some of those French ladies prefer it with a breeze. :D
zplay said:
Anyway, I'm glad to hear about the tonal progress with your WP. I can say something similar with my CV-2C, though I was surprised how noticeable it was after just a couple of weeks of steady play.
It seems that the tightness in the trebles is gone, Baby! - As you say, fat and strong all the way up the neck. And the bass has so much authority! I'm very pleased that I sprung for this guitar. Maple is new for me and I'm really enjoying it.
Isn't this tonewood amazing? I don't regret for a minute I sold my Gibby J100 in order to afford this darling. The way I see it Guild make the guitars Gibson wish they were making.

I agree on the authority bit. Comparing the 16" folk depth WP to the 17" dread depth J100 the WP has a larger tone, though perhaps not as airy as the Gibby with its larger size body. Perhaps not as rich as RW but far from as cold as maple can be.
zplay said:
By the way, I lifted the following section contributed by a luthier form a current discussion of rattling noises on the AGF. You might want to follow this thread over there ....


A few possibilities...

a loose wire related to the pickup
a loose washer in the jack in the tailblock
a splinter of wood "blowout" from drilling the jack hole in the tailblock
a loose washer or screw on one of the tuners
a low nut slot
a back-bowed neck
a low saddle
a high fret in front of or behind the 9th
a low 9th fret
a truss rod that's floating "in neutral"
a peculiarity of that string

Here's the link .... http://69.41.173.82/forums/showthread.php?t=119286
Thanx mate! I think it came with the new set of strings or was enhanced by the fresh strings, somehow. Having ruled out the soundhole controls, my guess is it has to do with how the ball-end, string-pin or saddle is seated or any cables below the bridge. Appears to be specific to the third string and not to any particular frequency.
 

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Graham said:
sitka_spruce said:
PPS. I'm sure noone picked up on the joke of the title with reference to the male member. I had something more obvious in mind for a title before I posted the review.

Not me. :wink:

Actually took me a few days to even wander into this room with a title like that. :shock:

But just like a car wreck I guess I wanted to see your Willy for myself, you know, to size up against all the rumours and such. :oops:
You don't seem like prude or easily startled guy, Gramster - are you?
 

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Jeff said:
sitka_spruce said:
PS. Unless it's against the purpose of this forum I'd love to see more reviews, reviews of any sort really.

PPS. I'm sure noone picked up on the joke of the title with reference to the male member. I had something more obvious in mind for a title before I posted the review.

Personally I don't understand Graham's issue with the thread title. Sitka, man to man, show up here with your Willie, guaranteed I'll ask to play with it.

I bought My CO 1 from an E bay secondary seller, good enough deal & a sweet guitar but I probably would have turned it down new in a shop. Like your Willie the action on my CO1 from the factory wasn't so hot. I took it to a pretty sharp Guild authorized repair facility, figured he could remove the bolt on neck fairly easily & adjust the action. Apparently the neck isn't all that removeable, & the luthier shaved the saddle & slotted the bridge for the high E & B strings. Action is okay now, plays well, could be better, slotting the bridge did improve sound from strings involved.

232832.jpg


My CO1's been neglected, I'm taking lessons & practicing mostly with the Starfire. Been popping a G string on the Starfire about every 10.
days.

Fooling around with Graham's song I heard myself unintentionally muting strings on the F20, F 20 has a skinny 1 5/8 in fretboard, sort of like a violin neck, verry cool neck & fun to play, but it's crowded & unforgiving.

I picked up the CO1 because it has a wider 1 3/4 " fretboard & requires significantly less concentration to play clean. Lessons & practice are paying off, even a blind squirrell finds a acorn ocassionally & my skill is improving. Don't know if the guitar changed or my technique, anyway, I was taken back by it "Big" presence. Not so much volume but sweet open chords with muscle, nice sweet chimey bass with more roar than I remembered, really likes to be firmly fingerpicked.

A good picker could probably fool ya into thinking it was a bigger guitar. I've had the guitar for quite a while & pick it pretty regular but yesterday it reallly jumped out & grew on me.
Thanx mate! Your figured out the intended title for the review right there.

It seems the issue with your neck is of a slightly different nature than mine. For me it's the extention of the fretboard that's in an upward slope, giving it no action at all in that area and hence rattle occurs. It breaks my heart thinking about having it sanded down as this would probably ruin its proportions and make the fb so thin the markings would end up too close to the upper surface of the fb.
 

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sitka_spruce said:
Scratch said:
Awesome review, Jonas. Thanks for taking time to put it together. Have you posted the review on Harmony Central?
Thanx, Scratch, my man! I've had it in mind but haven't gone ahead with it yet. You think I should? It's not too long for HC?

Yes, I agree: you should submit it to HC and I don't think it's too long. I don't know how strict they are about their format, but it's possible you might have to modify a section heading or two or move around some text, if they are.
Other than that, you should be good
to go and it would be cool to see it there.
 

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zplay said:
sitka_spruce said:
Scratch said:
Awesome review, Jonas. Thanks for taking time to put it together. Have you posted the review on Harmony Central?
Thanx, Scratch, my man! I've had it in mind but haven't gone ahead with it yet. You think I should? It's not too long for HC?

Yes, I agree: you should submit it to HC and I don't think it's too long. I don't know how strict they are about their format, but it's possible you might have to modify a section heading or two or move around some text, if they are.
Other than that, you should be good
to go and it would be cool to see it there.

Agree with Zplay, Jonas. Would love to see it on Harmony. Bet it sells some Willys...
 

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JerryR said:
Jonas - do you write Guitar Reviews for a living? Hey - what a great job, having to try out all those top of the range guitars and then writing about them :D
Cheers Jerry! I agree it would have been quite a job to make one's living - but, alas: no, I don't.
There are already some reviews on HC with my name on them but they are far from this concise and the instruments were all bought by me for private use. For instance the first D-212 one was made by me.

I do write a lot, fiction and facts, both in my native language and in Anglo-Saxian but all of this is merely pass-time for me. However should an opportunity arise to do it professionally, then I won't stand back and watch it fly me right by. Being a hyperactive and as a consequence having an incomplete education... goes without saying doors may need some persuation to open.
 
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