Korean A-150

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I used to have one and reviewed it on Sweetwater, but the review is no longer live. Here it is:

First, be sure you check that this Savoy comes with the case that was newly designed starting in 2019. I ordered two of these guitars from Sweetwater and they both arrived with a crack in the top, right where the volume pot meets the top. I Googled around and discovered this was a known problem with Savoys. The case presses on the volume knob and cracks the top. I contacted Guild/Cordoba and they said the case was being redesigned, so they knew of the problem as well.

I was looking for a jazz box with a classic tone and ordered the Savoy as well as the D'Angelico Excel EXL-1. I put identical flatwounds on them. The Savoy had just a bit richer, classic, smokey jazz bar sound. I'm a mediocre player, and certainly not a jazz player, but I love that sound. I got that tone by strumming with my thumb pad, Wes Montgomery style. I could never get the guitar to sound good with a pick. The pickup is also bass heavy so I had to dial the bass down on my amp (Fender Blues Jr) compared to other guitars. Even then, I had to be careful hitting the low E too hard. I suspect a skilled jazz player could coax some sweet finger picking sounds out of the Savoy (they do in the online videos).

Guild/Cordoba were delayed in getting me a replacement guitar, so eventually I sent it back to Sweetwater. Thanks to Sweetwater for taking care of me.
 

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I have one of the very earliest of the Korean A-150's so I can only speak to my guitar. As Longnose said the DeArmond 1000 is a bit too bassy. I don't use flat wounds on this guitar so maybe a bit less of an issue in my case. But, the sound and response of this guitar acoustically was really excellent. I had it set up by a well known luthier in Las Vegas who was stunned at the quality and acoustic sound of a guitar at this price point. I eventually got a re-issue DeArmond 1100 for the guitar which I like much better.
 

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I recently purchased one of the special run a150’s. Its in white, Grover imperial tuners and the rhythm chief 1100 pickup. Other than that, its the same guitar. I really like the white finish. Because of the few differences, the prices jump. Its the most expensive archtop electric they make. There is one or two out here with standard tuners, but these were listing at 1599. Was told only about 8 were made of this run. So i shopped around and waited for a good deal. I found a store that normally sells pointy guitars, but has one of these in stock as the guild salesman brought it in and hyped it up. Got almost no playing for even being picked up to look at. So they made me an offer, and shipped it out. I am not one for flat wounds, these come with them. I played it a bit with the flat wounds, and tried a few different round wounds in the same 12 gauge. Overall, its a great guitar for what i paid for it. I think the 1100 pickup is a better sound for me, but the controls on the pickgaurd leave a bit to be desired. The tone knob can be turned 50 percent before it engages, and then it goes full tone drop. Having played it a few days i noticed that no matter what i did, there was string buzz. I raised the bridge ridiculously high, and any time i played notes over the 12th fret, i got buzz. Took it to a local luthier at guilds request, and he mentioned there were multiple high frets after the 12th fret, and a few here and there along the fret board. Guild did send me a return label, and i shipped it out to them last week. Its been there since last Tuesday. They will access and determine if they can fix it, or take it from there. Down side is that they cant get another one just like it as only 8 were made. I don’t want the standard version with the 1000 pickup, so i will wait and see what happens. i didnt send it back to where i bought it from for two reasons, they dont sell or work on archtops, and they count replace it either with the same model.

So , short story made long, i like the guitar, it plays very well, the solid top does project better than some other electric archtops I have had, but nothing like my solid wood Eastman ar610. So it doesn’t hold up at all in a acoustic jam setting, but it does help it project. It looks sharp. Over all the details look good, with a few minor imperfections. I am guessing that the standard a150 sounds identical, and if I swapped the pickup it would be minus the white and gold trim on this one. I would recommend it overall, regardless of what becomes of the one i sent in for repair. I will follow up if anyone wants to know what guild says about it.
 

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I will follow up if anyone wants to know what guild says about it.
I'm actually curious because this is the first report I've ever seen that Guild is undertaking repairs on imported guitars.
Granted this may be a special case due to the limited number built with the special finish, but in past they would simply replace the guitar with something of comparable value according to the terms of the warranty and send the returned piece to their go-to refurbisher MIRC.
Under Fender and with flattops (GAD models) in particular, it was deemed more cost effective to simply swap the instrument than to repair it.
There was also the complication that Fender didn't stock repair parts domestically and also completely reorganized their service model and organization shortly after moving to Guild to New Hartford. There literally was no factory repair available for a couple of years.
I can see that if it's simply a fret R&R issue then Oxnard's probably equipped to do that in house pretty easily.
It caused some frustration for at least 2 flattop owners here who'd bonded with their instruments and were offered replacements in years past, so it'd be a nice sign if they're able to do that repair for you.
And yes "not-quite-perfect" fret finishing seems to be a recurring issue for both the electric and the flattop imported lines.
Guess it's just one of the downsides of the price point but if warranty repair is actually available now, that helps mitigate the frustration.

(Oh and by the way, a belated "Welcome aboard! That was great review!)
 
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I will follow up. I called them directly and they were very nice on the phone. Asked me to have it checked out locally, which is did, kind of trouble shoot it, then sent me an airway bill. They did tell me that if i want that one back and they cant fix it, I’m stuck. Or they will replace at their discretion. I really want that one back. I will try and attach a photo of it.
 

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I will follow up. I called them directly and they were very nice on the phone. Asked me to have it checked out locally, which is did, kind of trouble shoot it, then sent me an airway bill.
Well that's stepping up to the plate and trying to meet you half-way, at least!
Never heard of that before (technically customer was always responsible for cost of shipping) but we did see some other examples of similar good-will gestures right after the purchase from Fender before the service organization was fully transitioned.
And for full disclosure/"balance" there were also some reports of extreme dissatisfaction with response to warranty claims for NH flattops from a couple of members here.
They did tell me that if i want that one back and they cant fix it, I’m stuck. Or they will replace at their discretion. I really want that one back. I will try and attach a photo of it.
Yeah, that was always "the deal" ever since the GAD line was introduced, at least, and it is so stated in the warranty, so no "foul" there.
But absolutely get why you want to get it back.
Heck I'm not even an electric guy but those have aroused my curiosity ever since finding out they actually had solid tops, and love the look of the floating pickup, too.
If I was independently wealthy I'd even buy one of the "standard" ones just to be able to get acquainted with it in the quiet and comfort of my own home.
Warranty was always one of my "pet topics" so appreciate the feedback and future follow-up, and trust that whichever way it goes you'll eventually have it properly sorted.
Hopefully on Cordoba's dime.
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After shopping around, standard A150’s new sell as low as 750, and used and nit abused coupled be had in the mid 600’s of you shop around.

Right but if I can just last out the week I'll have outlived my 401K and I live in apartment whose storage is fully occupied by the first 3 wives.
Flattops all, in a manner of speaking.
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technically customer was always responsible for cost of shipping

I'm not sure I agree with that but since I have a dry cough, runny nose and feel fatigued I'll let it pass :)

Seriously I think there were several cases where the selling dealer of a NH Guild opted to return the instrument because they were not comfortable doing the repair on site. In some cases the guitar was repaired, not replaced, and the entire process was at no cost to the customer.
 

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I'm not sure I agree with that but since I have a dry cough, runny nose and feel fatigued I'll let it pass :)

Seriously I think there were several cases where the selling dealer of a NH Guild opted to return the instrument because they were not comfortable doing the repair on site. In some cases the guitar was repaired, not replaced, and the entire process was at no cost to the customer.

Not that I doubt you but suspect those were all cases where the factory authorized the return shipping at their discretion, possibly due to the fact the dealer/service center couldn't perform the repairs and therefore customer shouldn't have been liable for shipping?
And/or perhaps simply as a goodwill will gesture in establishing confidence in New Hartford?
Current Guild warranty policy is basically unchanged from what I remember in all my Fender era owner's booklets (with the exception of limitation #9 about Authorized Dealers), and states:
"All transportation, insurance, and freight charges associated with warranty service and repairs on Guild instruments are the responsibility of the purchaser"
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PS I understand you've just been named as the responsible party for a quarantine on the entire state of Virginia.
 

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I've played a couple, and considering the price, I thought they were really great. Pretty loud acoustically too.
 

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Mine was made in early 2014, while Guild was still owned by Fender. It shipped to me & managed to avoid the dreaded top crack from the pickguard knob. I was hoping for something close to the acoustic tone of a solid spruce & X-braced 1930s Wards (made by Gibson) archtop that I had owned many years ago - And with the Guild A-150 having those rather unique features, it seemed to be worth a little leap of faith.

I use D'Addario PB extra-light acoustic strings, and it gets right into the same ballpark as the old Wards. It's not an acoustic tone that would satisfy everyone, but with my fingerpicking style, I really like being able to go to it for a change of pace. The big surprise came when plugging it in with these strings. It's a very crisp & punchy single-coil tone, which I find to be very cool when run through my Fender USA-made red-knob amps from the '90s. Also, the fretboard workmanship on this example is stellar & the neck profile is a super comfortable fit for my hands.

The A-150 is a one or two trick pony at most - But if you happen to like what it can do, it'll definitely have you smiling & coming back for more.

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For anyone still following this, i got a response from guild quality control. They determined there was a loose truss rod making the vibration noises i heard. Whether or not that was the only reason, and not high frets doesnt matter to me as they are replacing it with another one just like it. They have to switch the tuners so mine will still have the imperial tuners, and the 1100 rhythm chief pickup, but they located a snow crest white version with the same pickup. So bottom line, i am getting back the guitar i wanted, and guild came though with customer service. No run around, no swap for something else, i am getting what I paid for, plus it gets a set up by director of quality control. This had made a long time customer. This doesn’t happen everywhere folks. Let’s hear it for Guild customer service! I would be happy to post pics when i get it back, but it should look just like the last one. So, if on the fence, go try a A150.
 

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For anyone still following this, i got a response from guild quality control. They determined there was a loose truss rod making the vibration noises i heard. Whether or not that was the only reason, and not high frets doesnt matter to me as they are replacing it with another one just like it. They have to switch the tuners so mine will still have the imperial tuners, and the 1100 rhythm chief pickup, but they located a snow crest white version with the same pickup. So bottom line, i am getting back the guitar i wanted, and guild came though with customer service. No run around, no swap for something else, i am getting what I paid for, plus it gets a set up by director of quality control. This had made a long time customer. This doesn’t happen everywhere folks. Let’s hear it for Guild customer service! I would be happy to post pics when i get it back, but it should look just like the last one. So, if on the fence, go try a A150.

Thank you for the update. We always remember the complaints but not always the compliments.
 

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Thank you for the update. We always remember the complaints but not always the compliments.

Yep, same here, and that was pretty impressive.
It'd make me happy and I'm not easy.
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Back to that "Discretionary exceptions" to warranty policy on the part of Oxnard:
I also recall one instance very early on involving finish repair of a brand new D55 that was performed improperly by a dealer who had been an authorized Guild service center under Fender/New Hartford but in fact hadn't yet been signed up by Cordoba/Oxnard when they performed the botched repair job.
To be fair the member did the damage themselves but the service center proceeded with improper repair techniques.
THAT was the real issue.
Cordoba was in the process of vetting the service centers before re-signing 'em (and likely giving them a chance to opt out if they didn't like Cordoba's warranty fulfillment franchise rules) so it was a real gray area and in the end they wound up replacing the member's guitar, also no freight.
To me that was obviously also in the spirit of building good will for the new ownership, but still above and beyond the basic warranty terms.
 

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Another update. The countries situation had impaired guild as well. I have been in contact with the rep a few times. Seems they have a Skelton crew on a good day, and no one on a typical day. Pretty much like everywhere else. So it Kay take a few more weeks before it arrives back to me. In the meantime, i did pull the trigger on a starfire 3, one of the new reissues. The place had a great price for new, so now i sit and wait on that As well.
 
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