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Welcome fellow European :cool:

What everybody else said. Don't mess around with the label. I wonder why originally you feel the desire to reproduce it? Do you want to sell the guitar, or is it just for yourself?

I don't mean to capture your thread, so just from me to you: If you have the opportunity, please give Alberto my best regards and ask him to read and answer his mails. He has wonderful guitars on reverb, but unfortunately they are completely overpriced, and I would like to talk to him about it. Grazieeeeee
 

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Welcome fellow European :cool:

What everybody else said. Don't mess around with the label. I wonder why originally you feel the desire to reproduce it? Do you want to sell the guitar, or is it just for yourself?

I don't mean to capture your thread, so just from me to you: If you have the opportunity, please give Alberto my best regards and ask him to read and answer his mails. He has wonderful guitars on reverb, but unfortunately they are completely overpriced, and I would like to talk to him about it. Grazieeeeee
in this moment i only want to finish restoration of my Guild... i don't think to sell this guitar because is incredible... i had a lot of acoustic guitars but none was like my troubadour at this moment.. all my friends are jealous and i am in love
 

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Leave the guitar unlabeled. This is the only advice and also the best.
 

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I'd be careful about shallac'ing the guitar too!

If you love the sound of the guitar (and it sounds like you do!) be careful about doing anything major to the finish, as that can affect the sound.
 

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He's not gonna help you fabricate a label from the original factory. There are laws against that. But maybe if you hear it from him, you'll believe us......
 

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He's not gonna help you fabricate a label from the original factory. There are laws against that. But maybe if you hear it from him, you'll believe us......

AFAIK the only law broken by reproducing the label would be those associated with reproducing Guild's intellectual property. But the issue is not the label but what is done with it. Given that Guild labels can be used to establish dates and authenticity, making a replacement label and putting it in a guitar could be viewed as fraud. Since the labels contain serial number and model information a "replaced" label could indicate a stolen guitar or someone who wanted to sell a a "lower grade" Guild as if it were a higher model. There are fields, cars for example, where replacement parts can be ethically used and the result is clearly labeled as a restoration and not an original. But that is generally not the case with guitars.

It's your guitar but if the label is replaced then you or your heirs will have some explaining to do when it is sold. Much easier not to put a label in.
 

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Shellac can change sound of guitar?

If you're just touching up a tiny scratch on the neck or something, it might be OK. But even in that case, you need to make sure that the neck (or wherever youre applying shellac) was originally finished with shellac. You don't want to mix finishes that may not be compatible.

But if you're trying to make the guitar look new by refnishing it, there's a chance you'll just end up ruining it.

Part of why a guitar sounds good is a combination of its age, the materials used to make it, how it was constructed, and how it was finished -- and probably several other factors as well. If you change any of those things (not that you can change the age) you risk also changing the sound.

My recommendation: take the guitar to a professional luthier, one who really knows acoustic guitars, and explain what (you think) you want done to it -- and then let that person talk you out of it!

It isn't just that what you might do may hurt it's resale value -- that may or may not be important to you -- but that you may destroy the very thing you love about the guitar.

Good luck!
 

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If you're just touching up a tiny scratch on the neck or something, it might be OK. But even in that case, you need to make sure that the neck (or wherever youre applying shellac) was originally finished with shellac. You don't want to mix finishes that may not be compatible.

But if you're trying to make the guitar look new by refnishing it, there's a chance you'll just end up ruining it.

Part of why a guitar sounds good is a combination of its age, the materials used to make it, how it was constructed, and how it was finished -- and probably several other factors as well. If you change any of those things (not that you can change the age) you risk also changing the sound.

My recommendation: take the guitar to a professional luthier, one who really knows acoustic guitars, and explain what (you think) you want done to it -- and then let that person talk you out of it!

It isn't just that what you might do may hurt it's resale value -- that may or may not be important to you -- but that you may destroy the very thing you love about the guitar.

Good luck!
The guitar right now has no paint because is in Restoration after a long stop only raw wood, maple back and side and mahogany neck and obviously spruce top. I spend a lot of time(8_9 years) and money for repairs and changed 5_6 luthiers now only miss exterior paint finish. I choose shellac for my liking. But i have fear of changing sound (not for shellac.. Every kind of paint) because its sound is fantastic, sustain,volume...
 

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Can you upload some photos of the guitar? Until we really see what condition the guitar is in, it's hard to give you good recommendations or advice. I think that would make this discussion more productive.
 
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