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Oh Ralf!!! That maple F30 is BEAUTIFUL!! I'd bet money that's an Adirondack top on it, too!! So pretty!!

p.s. - oh duh!! I just read the ad. I was going by looks but it's Adirondack!! <3

p.p.s. - that rosewood one has beautiful bear claw Sitka top!! Wow!!
 

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Respectfully disagree - sort of. In my experience, you can the Westerly's just by lifting them, and a big difference in the neck shape. What I don't know is if there's a consensus on if those heavier builds have an overall difference in sound or make a model from one era more iconic/well known/highly regarded than another.

Respect noted. My recollection, perhaps incorrect, is that when people try and say "All Westerly builds are heavier" there are counterexamples from specific models and specific time periods so I figured there had to be some Westerly's that were not distinguishable by weight. I was also envisioning some kind of blind test where someone is just handed a guitar and it could even be a Martin or a Gibson :) So the only weight comparison would be to whatever the evaluator remembered and not directly to another guitar.

As for necks I don't remember anyone ever trying to make a list of characteristics that were unique to a Westerly neck of a certain time period so I was thinking that someone who said "this is a Westerly neck" was probably guessing.

I'll chalk this up to "just because I can't doesn't mean no one else can" and thank you.
 

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I think the most iconic, quintessential Hoboken models would be the D40, F212, and F30.

Not sure in other eras- but I think it’s safe to say post-1972 *Westerly Guilds are almost always heavier than ‘72 and earlier, at least when comparing the same models. Most of the 1964-66 Guilds I’ve had were so light as to feel almost too fragile to me. As I’ve said before, I think 1968-72 is the sweet spot all around. They are not heavy yet feel sturdy- and don’t have that “overbuilt” feel of the later ones. They also don’t command Hoboken prices.
 
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I need to weigh my D25M and my D15; I'm sure the D25 is heavier.
 

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I'm a dread guy, so that will bias my choices...

New York: No dreads made in NY, so just one, either an F-50 or F-40 (both are arched maple back and sides).

Hoboken: D-40 (mahogany) and D-50 (w BRW B/S, maybe one of Tom Smothers burst D-50 specials)

Westerly: DV-72 (love to have it in burst) and DV-73 (or maybe swap the DV-73 for Davisman's maple D-65S)

New Hartford: D-55 and ?
 

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As for necks I don't remember anyone ever trying to make a list of characteristics that were unique to a Westerly neck of a certain time period so I was thinking that someone who said "this is a Westerly neck" was probably guessing.

As I think more about necks, I may need to walk this back a little. With the "in my experience" qualifier, the 80's necks are much thinner than any period afterwards, the Gruhn necks a bit thicker - so your point about a "Westerly neck" is well taken.

I owned or have owned a handful of Westerly guitars from the 70's through the 90's, a couple of NH builds and a couple of Oxnard builds. (I've played one Hoboken, which seemed more like a post-Westerly.) Most of them have been great guitars, but the difference in feel between the 70's-80's Guilds and post-Westerly guitars is striking enough to beg the question: "What makes a Guild a Guild?" That's why I'm so interested to hear what people think is iconic and from where.

I have a '77 F512 that I believe is a quintessential "Guild 12 string", but I'm really eager to play an Oxford because I think I'll like the neck better and because it can't be as heavy as the '77. Still, I wonder if the Oxford model would be considered "iconic". Would there be a strong sentiment that "You haven't really experienced a Guild 12 string unless you played a _____ from _____ made in the _____. " What's the conventional wisdom on where the best D55's were made? Other than the D25, is there any other mahogany model considered "iconic"?

It's all subjective and there's no real right and wrong. I have my impressions and I'm eager to hear others. Including yours, Frono! :)
 

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I am with Richard P, this is not possible for me to select just two guilds from each factory/era I might be able to select 3 from each decade, but still too many great guilds would be left off my list.
 

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I've had several and liked most. I have what I need. I could definitely survive with them. 1986 D15 and 90(?) GX.
 

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For me, regardless of the factory, my friend's matching Westerly JF65 and JF65-12 (both flamed maple arched backs and necks) were the bomb and screamed "GUILD". Nothing looked better hanging on a mirrored display wall than those two guitars. Nothing!

Tommy
 

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For me, regardless of the factory, my friend's matching Westerly JF65 and JF65-12 (both flamed maple arched backs and necks) were the bomb and screamed "GUILD". Nothing looked better hanging on a mirrored display wall than those two guitars. Nothing!

Tommy
Now he just needs JF-55 and JF55-12 to complete the set!
 

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Now he just needs JF-55 and JF55-12 to complete the set!

At one time, he did indeed have all four at the same time, but the JF55 and JF55-12 were never put on display in his house. I got to play all of them.

At that time I only had my F30 Guild but was quite content with it, until the onset of arthritis threw a wrench into the works.

Tommy
 
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I was going to say all my acoustic Guilds were from NH, but the Contemporary Series one is from Corona. I need to try different strings on them because the Corona one is my favorite to play. Beating out an F47 and D-55 would shock most. I'm sort of puzzled to. Hence, time to change strings and see what happens.

Like Ray, I really don't have the depth of knowledge about builds from all the Guilds homes to comment much.
 
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From each era.

So, forgetting the unicorns, if you were going to build a collection of the most iconic or representative of the respective factories and you had to pick two, with no repeating, what acoustic guitars would you buy? At the risk of insulting anyone I'm going to lump all the post Westerly years into one group. Not sure if there are enough NY versions out there but feel free to add.

Hoboken:

Westerly: I would imagine the D-25 arched back would be on everyone's list so let's think of two more besides that.

Corona/Tacoma/New Hartford:
 
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From each era.

So, forgetting the unicorns, if you were going to build a collection of the most iconic or representative of the respective factories and you had to pick two, with no repeating, what acoustic guitars would you buy? At the risk of insulting anyone I'm going to lump all the post Westerly years into one group. Not sure if there are enough NY versions out there but feel free to add.

Hoboken:

Westerly: I would imagine the D-25 arched back would be on everyone's list so let's think of two more besides that.

Corona/Tacoma/New Hartford:
 

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Hoboken- Not sure, maybe a D40?
Westerly- G-37
New Hartford/Tacoma- D-50
 
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