I found the guitar from Page 165 in Hans' Guild Book

[Jahn]

You know that Custom/Proto late 50's M-65 with double pickups and clear knobs on the bottom left of that page? It's sitting in 30th Street Guitars here in NYC right now. Identical to that pic and pristine everywhere except for an unfortunate run in with something like a hot belt buckle that left dotted tracks all over the back. That hollow smallbody with F-holes had a great acoustic tone, very loud and percussive, and a great chunky but not too wide neck. Tuners on the back were 3-on-a-plate. Serial # was 10146 stamped in small numbers on the back of the headstock. Price was $4500. That thing was sweeeeet! I had a feeling it was something special when I saw the Ghost label inside and it had nothing written on it...

 

[Jahn]

You know that Custom/Proto late 50's M-65 with double pickups and clear knobs on the bottom left of that page? It's sitting in 30th Street Guitars here in NYC right now. Identical to that pic and pristine everywhere except for an unfortunate run in with something like a hot belt buckle that left dotted tracks all over the back. That hollow smallbody with F-holes had a great acoustic tone, very loud and percussive, and a great chunky but not too wide neck. Tuners on the back were 3-on-a-plate. Serial # was 10146 stamped in small numbers on the back of the headstock. Price was $4500. That thing was sweeeeet! I had a feeling it was something special when I saw the Ghost label inside and it had nothing written on it...

 

[jp]

Identical to that pic and pristine everywhere except for an unfortunate run in with something like a hot belt buckle that left dotted tracks all over the back.

My guess is that this is strap foo. This often happens when guitars are plunked into the case with older vinyl guitar straps laying across the backs. The chemicals with which they were treated reacts with the finish, especially when subjected to higher temperatures, leaving marks. Too bad.

Wonder if its the actual guitar?

 

[jp]

Identical to that pic and pristine everywhere except for an unfortunate run in with something like a hot belt buckle that left dotted tracks all over the back.

My guess is that this is strap foo. This often happens when guitars are plunked into the case with older vinyl guitar straps laying across the backs. The chemicals with which they were treated reacts with the finish, especially when subjected to higher temperatures, leaving marks. Too bad.

Wonder if its the actual guitar?

 

[jazzman]

My guess is that the guitar had an extended run in with a 'curly cable' at some point. I see that on guitars too often in the shop. The old rubber would melt in to the finish leaving that funky trail of dots on the back.
My two cents.

 

[capnjuan]

My guess is that this is strap foo...

I love it when a guy talks technical ...'Foo' ... it happened to my F412 ... a vinyl-foam-backed strap ...

 

[hansmoust]

You know that Custom/Proto late 50's M-65 with double pickups and clear knobs on the bottom left of that page? It's sitting in 30th Street Guitars here in NYC right now. Identical to that pic and pristine everywhere except for an unfortunate run in with something like a hot belt buckle that left dotted tracks all over the back. That hollow smallbody with F-holes had a great acoustic tone, very loud and percussive, and a great chunky but not too wide neck. Tuners on the back were 3-on-a-plate. Serial # was 10146 stamped in small numbers on the back of the headstock.

Hello Jahn,

It's not the same guitar. The one in the book is from 1958. The one at 30th Street Guitars was made a year later.
Cool though! That configuration is really rare!
Would love to see a photo!

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[Jahn]

You know I'm heading there tonight to consign my 1965 Fender Vibro Champ. Couldn't hurt to snap a few pics if they don't mind...any area in particular you'd like a closeup?

 

[hansmoust]

...any area in particular you'd like a closeup?

Hello Jahn,

Just a good front and back shot. All others would be a bonus!

Thanks!

Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[Jahn]

Done! I got there right before the store closed, barely had time to consign my amp, then I begged to try one guitar - they gave me 5 minutes, so I grabbed the Guild, snapped a few pics, and tossed off a quick tryout in a minute and 30 seconds. Have you ever tried to get the sense of a guitar in that short of a time? All I got from it was confirmation that single coils are too buzzy for me (i have dirty power in my place too, got to stick with humbuckers) and that the tuners wouldn't hold tuning, rats. But for a few licks I got to hear the potential of it - the bass was clean and deep, there wasn't any mud in the mids ( a bit honky tho ) and the highs chimed. And actually, a faithful recreation of its acoustic sound, I was impressed. Anyhow, here's the horrible vid, and the pics!

 

[Zachary]

Love those clear knobs! I have a '59 ce-100 with the same hardware. Thanks for posting the pics! Too bad it's not to your liking.

Nice amps, too!

Zach

 

[Walter Broes]

Wow, that's pretty much an Aristocrat with F-holes, isn't it? Probably not cheap?

 

[Jahn]

i forgot if they tagged it at 3500 or 4500, but it was outofmyrange500 for sure!

 

[billydlight]

sounded like it might have been wired out of phase

 

[Jahn]

I would have loved if one was out of phase - wouldn't that mean that picking both pickups would make it hum cancelling, like on a Jazzmaster?

 

[Walter Broes]

Jahn, for a humcancelling effect when both pickups are selected they need to be out of phase, and reverse polarity. Both are very easy mods with any pair of Franz or P90 pickups though, it's a matter of flipping two magnets and reversing two wires.

 

[Jahn]

ah reverse polarity, that's the part i forgot! very cool, someday i'll take a shot on a P-90 type guitar and just flip it and reverse it and live in the middle!