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Hi. I’m new to this site and registered because I wanted to know more about a purchase on 2nd hand site (Belgium). It’s a Guild G 41 from 1974 (if I’m not mistaken). I know already it’s huge, but I would like to know what it’s worth. (Knowing that it’s worth what’s one wants to pay for). It’s in pretty good condition for a 45y old guitar. Frets need to be replaced though.
I’ll try to post pics. Regards Rudi (Belgium)


 

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Welcome to LTG! Making your debut post with a G41 is a splashy entrance. Somewhat of a rare bird. (Post pics if you have the inclination.)

I have friends in Belgium, have played there a fair amount — one of my favorite parts of the world.

Value tends to depend on condition. In the States, they’d likely run between 900 and 1200 dollars in good condition, at least from what I recall. I’d expect to see them going for more in Europe, just because Guilds are less common there.

Others more knowledgeable than me may have something to add.

In any case, bienvenue!
 

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Welcome to LTG, Rudi.

Searching on-line I find reference to a few G-41 guitars that sold in the US for about $900. You might find more-recent sales by searching for completed listings on Ebay or Reverb.

Prices are typically somewhat higher in the EU, so maybe $1,200 or so where you live?

Other LTGers might be able to tell you what they paid for one.

(edit: Glenn posted the same time I did . . . it appears we're thinking about approximately the same price range)
 

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Hard to tell with the frets -- they look a little flat, but they may just need crowning rather than replacing? Assuming you do buy it, see what your luthier recommends.

Assuming the neck angle is good and there's a decent amount of saddle showing (and it's affordable), maybe it's found a home? Looks in good shape from here.
 

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Thanks for reply. I wasn’t looking for a Guild but when I saw this one (for an unbelievable asking price of ?,!!!) I immediately payed by bank transfer and mailed a copy. Otherwise she didn’t want to reserve it for me. The day after, when I collected the guitar I gave her 100€ more because the bidding was going up and I felt a little awkward (so the guitar costed me ?,€ !!!). They were very happy. I took it home and cleaned it a little bit. That’s all I did before taking the pics.
I’m 56y old and only playing for 2 years. To be honest, for me this guitar is difficult to play because it’s so large (I.m 1.92m though) But the sound that comes out is incredible.
So now I don’t know what to do. Trade it for an easier guitar or restore it or let it restore by a luthier. I do have the feeling that this is an extra ordinary piece.
The owner (her husband) bought the guitar second hand from a professional musician in the early eighties. The guitar is from 1974 (104262 is the serial number)
Rgds Rudi
 
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Wow! At that price you can certainly justify taking it to the nail salon and getting both the pedicure AND manicure treatment, with a little eyebrow threading thrown in for good measure!

In terms of it feeling too big, I recommend spending time with it -- you may get comfortable.
 

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....It’s a Guild G 41 from 1974 (if I’m not mistaken). I know already it’s huge....
What are the specs on this? I pulled up an example on reverb that shows it's a dread, but it also claims the lower bout is 17" with a scale length of 26-1/4". Huh?
 

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Model NameG41
Body StyleDreadnought
TopSolid Spruce
Bracing
BackMahogany
SidesMahogany
BridgeRosewood
NeckMahogany
FretboardRosewood
Width at nut1 11/16"
No. of Frets20
Depth5"
Width17"
Scale Length26 1/4"
Electronics
FinishNitrocellulose lacquer
 

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Lots of discussion over the years here on LTG about the G41 jumbo dread. Longer scale length than regular dreads too.

Check the archives?
 

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That's why people keep saying "huge", Cougar! They're huge. Dimensions you'd find on a jumbo with the squareness of a dread and a super long scale length. Our member Retro Rocker who performs a lot went on a search for one because he's such a big guy (tall, like 6'5" or even 6'6") he can hold a jumbo guitar and make it look like a concert sized one!! For some people they're probably just the thing, but for more average sized people they can be a little much.
 
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I had one. Just sold it a couple of weeks ago to someone who plays bluegrass and just had to have one! I enjoyed it, and it was very comfortable to play for me. I put new bone nut and saddle, ebony pins, had some bridge fine-tuning done, frets evened out and polished, and had a K&K pickup installed...and gigged with it a few times. It had a spruce top and mahogany back and sides. Had a real mid-range punch acoustically, and sounded great plugged in.

But I just wasn’t playing it much. (I just prefer either of my Tacoma-era F-50r models, with that jumbo rosewood bass and warmth, high end clarity, smooth sustain, full-bodied comfort...and yes, I dig the “bling” of the G-Shield headstock, neck and headstock binding, gold tuners, inlays and ‘racing stripes’! LOL!

But I enjoyed it while I had it, and it has found a new home where it will be played as it should be!

As far as price/value goes, I have no idea. There aren’t enough of them out there to really know. The few I had seen range from 850.00 to 2200.00 (USD). It just depends on what it’s worth to you!
 

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She’s back from the luthier.
He crowned the frets. Next time they must be replaced.
But I still have some questions.
How do I measure the scale length? If I measure from nut to bridge saddle I have 65,2 cm. Equals 25,67 inches !
While a G-41 has to have 26 1/4 inches, I think.
I will try to post new pics.

Also the tuners make me wonder. If I look at pics from a G-41 they mostly have other tuners compared to mine. Can any one explain?
Greetz
Rudi
 
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