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Taking pics for an upcoming article. Not happy with any of them but thought i'd share anyway.

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Very cool, thanks for sharing! Are the arranged in chronological order?
 

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Very cool, thanks for sharing! Are the arranged in chronological order?

They are indeed. Roughly '68 to '73 left to right.

Oddly enough the most difficult one to find was the triangle model second from the right.

I was amazed when the left-most one showed up. I paid WAY too much for a freaking fuzz pedal, but it's so freaking clean and it's an original MossRite with the Sprague thing in it. Unlike this one which has been relisted over and over for a year now. They did lower it from $750 to $699 a while back, so I suppose that's something.


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They are indeed. Roughly '68 to '73 left to right.

Oddly enough the most difficult one to find was the triangle model second from the right.

I was amazed when the left-most one showed up. I paid WAY too much for a freaking fuzz pedal, but it's so freaking clean and it's an original MossRite with the Sprague thing in it. Unlike this one which has been relisted over and over for a year now. They did lower it from $750 to $699 a while back, so I suppose that's something.


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Yes, I laugh every time I see this one. That and the "Mega Rare Hangtag" that keeps showing up!

And BTW, I must admit to being momentarily fooled by your thread title...

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I like the latest biggest version with the EH knobs. Do I see slotted screws on top of that one, are those replacements or was that normal for this pedal?
 

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I like the latest biggest version with the EH knobs. Do I see slotted screws on top of that one, are those replacements or was that normal for this pedal?

Good eye! I have two of those and the other one has the same screws as the rest, so I'm going to guess replacement.
 

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Yeah, the EH pedals screws were always a) missing and b) hard if not impossible to find. Possibly chromed dome headed Phillips screws.

Cosmetically, I like them all to match, that's the most important thing, beyond being the correct thread.

Sheet metal or machine thread, I want to say sheet metal.

The picture is very nice actually, but the 2nd pedal seems to have a slight haze, I'm thinking maybe a reflection from a reflector, but the highlight/shadow detail is fine, perfect in fact. If you could get the same contrast on #2 pedal as on the other pedals, a total winner.

Also, a slight tweak clockwise to the 1st pedal so that the footswitch doesn't block the tail of the Y of Foxey.

Photo shenanigans aside, must be nice to be able to compare these four beautiful pedals. My idea of a good time ;]

Also to note, all four pedals are virtually in Time Capsule condition.
 

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Any other complaints? Yeesh.

None of the pedals are mint. The photo purposefully minimizes the many flaws in them.
 

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What is the difference between the first Foxy and the Muffs? I just can't seem to like the muff sound that much.
 

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What is the difference between the first Foxy and the Muffs? I just can't seem to like the muff sound that much.

The first one is a MossRite FuzzRite that uses a Sprague Bulplate (type of early encapsulated circuit) while the other three are PCB and are the foundation for Electro Harmonix that became the Big Muff Pi. The circuits get progressively more complex from left to right. The two-knob second from the left is a slightly reworked variant of the FuzzRite as Mike Mathews got the rights to the FuzzRite when MossRite went bankrupt.

I have a whole writeup coming, but since they used whatever parts they could get, tolerances were wide so two identical looking Foxey Lady pedals may sound very different (the same is true for early Big Muffs). In fact, one of the earliest reverse engineered pedal schematics online was taken from a Foxey Lady and as luck would have it a relatively uncommon variant was used so that many of the Foxey Lady clones out there don't sound like most of the Foxey Ladies from that period. As further luck would have it, the 2-knob Foxey Lady in my pic is that same uncommon variant.

This site has an amazing depth of information, but it's pretty dense: http://www.kitrae.net/music/History_of_OEM_Big_Muffs.html
 

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"whatever parts they could get" is a very Guildian thing.

Oh yeah. From what I’ve read and seen with my own eyes I get the same vibe that I think you see with the amps: they’re kind of the same as other items from us with the same name and they say Guild on them.
 

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I don’t like BMP style circuits myself. That tonestack just sucks away all the mids so it gets lost in a mix easily. If I remember correctly one of those Guild fuzz boxes was a EH Axis fuzz which was in itself a different circuit from the 4 transistor staged Big Muff that we all know and love (kinda.). I thought about cloning the Axis Fuzz version but I have way too much projects piling up. That’s a pretty cool collection, can’t wait for the write up.
 

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The Guild Axis fuzz is an insanely rare variation that I have little hope of ever finding.

The 3-knob models are 4-transistor. The 2-knobs are far simpler.
 

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No complaints, just suggestions. I thought I'd read you "didn't like any of the pics". Just trying to be helpful from a viewer's point. Didn't realize you were trying to minimize flaws, but it worked.

As ridiculous as asking prices are for Big Muffs now, the Guild versions - in true Guild fashion - can actually be a bargain compared to an EH Muff Pi.

$2250 for "Triangle" Muff missing an impossible to find volume knob;


Or $850 - Reverb's suggested retail price - for the Guild version, when one pops up.

Also to note, Hendrix quite likely played through a 2 knob Guild Foxey Lady at one point, and his death pre-dates any three knob version.

 
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Stumbled onto some info on the Foxey Lady fuzz from a Hendrix article. Looks like Hendrix used the 2-knob version. The pictures show the prototype and onstage pedals. Lot of good info in the article about circuit tweeks and "placebo effect" on Hendrix selection of a "tweek" along with true sonic tweeks.
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