donnylang
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I’m pretty sure Guild did indeed glue in their through saddles.
Exploded M20 bridge
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wileypickett
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You may be right Donny -- just saying that that's not been my experience.
As I say, I've owned (and still own) -- or have worked on -- at least a half-dozen, probably more, Hoboken through-saddle guitars and none had glued-in saddles, at least not when I got them.
I wasn't the original owner of any of them, and at least one or two saddles had been sanded to lower the action, so they'd been removed before I got my mitts on them.
But the rest of the saddles appeared original, the ends of the saddle following the countours of the bridge wings. They were in most cases snug but all came out with a gentle tug from a needle-nosed pliers.
I've worked on guitars that have had glued-in saddles (owner "improvements" I suspect) so I know what it is to grapple with one. I remember in particular a Harmony that I practically had to destroy the bridge in order to get the saddle out.
Anyone else encountered glued-in saddles on their Guilds?
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adorshki
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I bet the real answer is "Sometimes they did, sometimes they didn't."
wileypickett
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I bet the real answer is "Sometimes they did, sometimes they didn't."
Yah -- depending on what day of the week it was or whether they'd had their morning jolt of coffee yet or not!
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Donny you seem to have some evidence, anecdotal or otherwise, but you're making it into a hard and fast rule and Guild didn't roll that way. Maybe some they did, and maybe some they didn't. They don't glue the bridges on archtops so why would they do it in a flattop model? Not saying you're wrong, just that you cannot make it into a rule that Guild Always Did So, because they were kinda free with their changes and work habits. Hammering away at this isn't gonna help the guy with the broken bridge. I'm with Glenn, the saddle should be friction held by a tight fit. Once that downward pressure it on the saddle with a firm fit, it's not gonna go anywhere except in the case of some severe trauma.
donnylang
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Ah nope no evidence, and not meaning to come off contrary. Happy to be wrong. I wish I could find some- I’m mostly thinking from design standpoint, it seems like the through bridge would have been designed to be glued in.
But in any case, I’m just seeing anecdotal comments about it online. Not sure how it could be verified however.
But in any case, I’m just seeing anecdotal comments about it online. Not sure how it could be verified however.
SFIV1967
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Would be interesting to hear what Hans has to say about the topic from his Guild experience/knowledge.
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adorshki
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Sir, you've got decent creds as far as I'm concerned, and in any case I keep learning new stuff and being surprised around here, so I've been willing to give your belief due respect. Like Ralf, I agree, it would be nice to hear from Hans.
And I do suspect that it may in fact have been something done on a case by case basis, maybe "yes" for something like student model M20's where saddle replacement wasn't foreseen as a likely maintenance issue, maybe "no" for other models?
It might help Nokomite if he's still trying to decide which way to go, besides.
wileypickett
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Me too.
And I've already been wrong about no one gluing their saddles in -- Martin did apparently, and Martin is hardly "no one."
I know it's but a footnote in the grand history of Guild Guitars but footnotes can be interesting!