DIY F30CE soundhole crack cleat + hollow body bass cracked jack area gluing w Titebond II

Guildedagain

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Had two slightly daunting repairs for the novice, got tired of waiting on myself or taking it to a pro, grabbed the bull by the horns and got 'em done.

One was a F30CE that got here on on a 108º June day last year, after being stuck on the truck undelivered the day before because I wasn't there to sign, driver said it hit 118º by the end of his route that day. The guitar had a soundhole crack when I inspected it, quite wide, and no amount of hydration would close it. I toyed with the idea of having someone cleat it professionally, only $50, but was leery of the guitar coming back with something unexpected, some finish flaw in the area, so eventually I forgot all about it.

My luthier neighbor was going to give me a cleat and some hide glue, but then he got Covid, and again I forgot all about it.

So it'd been early a year and I decided to fix it today so I could play it. Found a Spruce scrap in my wood bits drawer, trimmed it, thinned it, beveled it, fitted it, hydrated the area heavily with a sponge, the crack went past the brace slightly and squeezing a wet sponge into the area was making water come up past the rosette.

Perfect for introducing some slightly waterthinned Titebond from the top and I got the cleat up in there and just held it super tight with middle finger squeezing out glue, wiping and squeezing until dry, my fingertip still hurts.

Nice repair, it's not going anywhere.

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The other repair was a weak output jack area on 1969 Italian hollow body bass. I was selling it as "needing to be pro repaired" in the area, and decided to just do it myself after a guy offered me $450 off my already lowered price because of the weakened - but not broken - area as I made it very clear with buyers on weakened state and needing to be properly repaired before it got tragically worse from being stepped on by someone who also doesn't know how to loop the cord over the strap button under the strap.

I brainstormed a clamp and some cauls - wooden spoons - for pushing it all back together after generous applications of slightly waterthinned Titebond and voila, by morning, solid as a rock.

The clamp was a motorcycle tie down, not the junky ratchet style, the kind you tug on to tighten, and the handlebar loop went locked into the output jack while the wooden spoons pushed areas that were trying to bulge out back in. Awkward but highly effective. After testing it, I decided to pull the ad and never sell it. It just has too good of tone to part with.

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Happy gluing all ;]
 
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Nice work!

There is something about achieving things yourself that brings a satisfaction not gotten anywhere else.

I am finding that in things less delicate than guitar repairs at the moment - think fencing etc.

It’s amazing what a bit of self confidence can achieve.
 

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Amen. You achieve nothing by not trying.

"Neccessity is the mother of all invention", and as they used to say "Nothing ventured, nothing gained" ;]

Trying to pick out the right strings for that F30CE today, that might actually be harder than the glue job...

Guild billed this thing as "The easiest playing full sized electric in the world".

The Guild, taken last year.

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Something interesting about this one is that the top had a very distinct tone, so distinct probably the first time I ever checked the tone a top from tapping and lo and behold, an A, which should make the guitar ring like a bell in that key.
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I got tired of looking at the little dimples in the top which were lighter than the piano black, so took a sharpie with some old glasses on for magnification, dings be gone.

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After

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All the little boo boos were covered up, relic Schmrelic ;]

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And the Bass

Non export Crucianelli that actually said Crucuanelli on headstock. Wonderful thumpy upright tone. Still working as my Starfire replacement therapy.

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Rare logo on these shores, these usually sold under some other/importer name.
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The area that desperately needed gluing.
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I like to say that "Necessity is a Mutha".

Well done on the repairs with extra credit for creativity. If only you find a way to incorporate JB Weld and Duct tape into your work.
 

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Not fixing things throws me into a funk... McGuyvering is where it's at for me. Being poor, I always got some kind of hand me down beater and had to fix something, bicycles, motorcycles, cars, trucks, guitars, antique furniture, computers, mowers, houses, the list is endless.

JB Weld is good, but doesn't stand up to heat very well. Duct tape is quite fantastic. I see it on neighbor's fingers, boots, etc.

Old timer wisdom about WD40 and duct tape, the only two things you need to repair an old car apparently ;]

If it moves and it ain't supposed to, duct tape.

If it doesn't move and it's supposed to, WD40.
 

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Amen to that Guilded! A knife in my pocket, roll of duct tape, can of WD40 and I’m good to go.
 

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Well done!, I had gone through something similar. Found a developing crack in the top of an acoustic, and being the cheap soul I am and not wanting to pay someone for something I can do myself(though to that point I've never glued an acoustic top, but it is just wood and glue after all, we've been using that stuff since kindergarten!) Then I also figure heck, nothing ventured, nothing gained! So I got some hideglue, worked it into the crack from the top while pressing from underneath with a finger on each side of the crack to open crack some to allow glue in. Then I glued up some cleats underneath running across the crack and clamped them in with a long c-clamp. Boom! first acoustic crack repair.
 

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My luthier neighbor mentioned working hide glue up in there, but we never hooked up because of Covid.

One thing I learned from him is - contrary to how most people treat boo boos - is "don't touch the cracks" stop rubbing the cracks to make them feel better or to feel if the surfaces are level, whatever reason people have to rub cracks, mostly to comfort the guitar, because of the oils on your hands compromises the area for later repair.

Another one of his SOP is Everclear. The real stuff from Montana, or any other state that can sell 190 Proof alcohol.

He cleans the area thoroughly with Everclear, Q tips, works it into the crack and get it really clean. for gluing.

Hell, you have to stop other people from touching cracks, they just want to.

Someone was visiting once ages ago, and we got into a little acoustic jam, and at some point he started feeling my fairly minty '66 Harmony bass that had minor edge chips mumbling something mindless like "Wow, that's really too bad it's so messed up" or something.

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