Digital Photography Question

[Telenator]

You gonna have to let go of those old fashioned "do it yourself like a craftsman" attitudes if you wanna be happy in the new world.... :lol:

Man, you called that one right!

I don't text, I don't twitter, I don't blog, or do any of those crazy things. Everywhere I go I see people with ther heads down thumbing sme stupid device and completely tuned out to the real world around them. I don't even have voice mail on my cell phone. I just wish I wasn't so old right now. In the near future there is going to be a big demand for people who actually know how to physically do things. Most of the people I know can't even hammer a nail straight. I often wonder what the "new breed" will do if the power goes off.

 

[cjd-player]

I often wonder what the "new breed" will do if the power goes off.

So true. :lol:

We lost power for a few hours during a storm last week. My boys were going crazy.
They said they had nothing to do. No computers. No music playing. No video games. No microwave to make popcorn. :shock:

I just went and played my guitar. :wink:

This whole digital photography issue brings to light how technology is forced upon us. People think, and we are told, that just because something has a "computer" involved - digital photography, digital music, digital measuring devices, automobile engines, etc, etc, etc, - it is automatically better than the "old way".

Not necessarily true.
My son-in-law is starting in professional photography. He's got high-end cameras and insane lenses. But, I have yet to see a printed digital image that matches the sharpness of a film image. Same is true on our micrcoscopes at work. All digital images now, but never as good as the "old fashioned" Polaroid film images.

 

[Telenator]

OK, ya got me started now!

I had a friend over the other night who's kid plays guitar and heard I have a 1956 Les Paul Special. The kid was almost shaking when he held it and started to play. Then he got a text message. Then he started to text back, while holding my guitar and we're all sitting around. I laid down the law that day. No texting in my house! The kid got another text, put down the guitar, and went outside to reply. When in his lifetime will he again get the chance to sit relaxed playing a 1956 Les Paul?

People never asked for texting. It was forced on us by others who saw an opportunity to make money. No one asked for it. No one needs it. An entire frickin nation was built without texting, answering machines or computers.

I'm not "anti-technology." I'm against the abuse of it when it starts to consume people and make them non-productive. I was self-employed for 12 years. Don't go slacking on my watch!

 

[killdeer43]

But, I have yet to see a printed digital image that matches the sharpness of a film image. Same is true on our micrcoscopes at work. All digital images now, but never as good as the "old fashioned" Polaroid film images.

I was a long-time hold-out before I buckled and bought a digital camera, and I have yet to see a single image that compares to the 30,000+ slides that I have from days past.
I still have my big Nikon that uses slide film and I still do slide presentations, eschewing the Power Point rage. I introduce myself as one of the last remaining 'film dinosaurs' and offer the caveat that I suffer from PMS....Projector Malfunction Syndrome. Usually good for an ice-breaking chuckle or three. :wink:

I'm doing a presentation at an REI Executive Retreat next month and it will be.... a slide presentation! Comfort level.... very high!

Even though I'm deeply into birds, I refuse to Tweet or Twitter,
Joe

 

[JerryR]

I often wonder what the "new breed" will do if the power goes off.

So true. :lol:

We lost power for a few hours during a storm last week. My boys were going crazy.
They said they had nothing to do. No computers. No music playing. No video games. No microwave to make popcorn. :shock:

I just went and played my guitar. :wink:

Good thing you don't only have a solid body electric

 

[adorshki]

I don't text, I don't twitter, I don't blog, or do any of those crazy things.
I often wonder what the "new breed" will do if the power goes off.

That's why you have enough time to build your axes! And that's a big reason why I decided to stick with acoustic when everybody else was buying electrics! Anytime, anywhere, baby! "AMPS? We don't need no stinkin' amps!" :lol:
Having said that I wish to make clear that I certainly wouldn't want to have to live without all those magnificent electric guitarists we have come to know and love!

 

[adorshki]

But, I have yet to see a printed digital image that matches the sharpness of a film image. Same is true on our micrcoscopes at work. All digital images now, but never as good as the "old fashioned" Polaroid film images.

I was a long-time hold-out before I buckled and bought a digital camera, and I have yet to see a single image that compares to the 30,000+ slides that I have from days past.
Even though I'm deeply into birds, I refuse to Tweet or Twitter,
Joe

Direct tie-in back to the traditional offset printing business I supply. It's all about resolution when it come to print quality, you guys know it as grain size in the film. Until they can pack as many pixels as sliver grains into a squre inch that's how it's gonna be. I started noticing about 5 years ago the obvious blurry qualities on digitally generated advertising mail. In fact "edge softening" is even sold as a special effect but it's just gross.
The counterpoint is a LOT of my customers are using these new digital color laser printers and they can run smaller quanitites and cutomize individual printing jobs right there in their shop. They can get an image file through email and start printing that day. You can't even turn on an offset press for less than 10,000 sheets of paper. How many of you guys want to lock into that kind of quantity for your small business flyer for example?
So it has its place and the paper manufacturers see traditional offset as a dying market and digital as the only growth market, but baby if you want a fine art painting/photography book you ain't even looking at digital, period.

 

[kevin the bass man]

I rarely text, never "twit" on twitter, and if the power went out...oh well... my basses and other hobbies would keep me busy. And putting down a 1956 les paul to go text is plain insanity!!!! I know I'm probably one of the only "old fashioned" people in my generation.
As for digital cameras....meh. if there was some way to only use normal film again...I used a polaroid camera until they stopped making self developing film...I mean, there's no, nor will there probably ever be, a digital camera that can print (and develop) in a couple seconds.
As for having to "let go of the do it yourself like a craftsman" thing Adorshki said (I know you were joking, but unfortunately, that seems to be the mentality now), I'm never letting go of that.
I refinished my bass myself, and I'm kinda shocked how many people seem confused by that, like a normal person can't possibly refinish what it essentially a piece of wood. my other hobby besides bass playing is model building (a dying breed) When I tell people what all I have built , fixed, etc. with my hands, people are either A. amazed or B. (the more common response) seem confused and look at me like I have 2 head.
As for how unhandy people are now, my dad (a plumber) has people call him (increasingly over the years) asking him to install a basic kitchen or bathroom faucet or drain because they can't figure out how to put it together and just gave up.

 

[adorshki]

As for having to "let go of the do it yourself like a craftsman" thing Adorshki said (I know you were joking, but unfortunately, that seems to be the mentality now), I'm never letting go of that.

Some of us have this genetic flaw that exhibits itself in excessive creativity and a general need to make stuff for ourselves. As soon as we get a digital baby to the market we oughta be able to slectively breed out that non-conforming characteristic. 8)

 

[Telenator]

It's gotten so bad that, when someone sees one of my hand made guitars, they ask, "where did you get the parts?"

I reply, "I made them." They say, "yeah but like, the neck and body, those are from AllParts or Warmoth right?"

I tell them, "No, they're handmade."

Then they say, "So like, some company makes these parts by hand and you assembled it."

At this point I say, "Dude, this wood had bark on it when I started!" "It's completely hand made. Why do you have such a hard time accepting that?"

In all honesty I can't blame them because it's just not in their comprehension why someone would go to all the trouble of making their own when you can just buy the parts on-line. This leads back to, "what happens when the power goes off?"

 

[adorshki]

In all honesty I can't blame them because it's just not in their comprehension why someone would go to all the trouble of making their own when you can just buy the parts on-line. This leads back to, "what happens when the power goes off?"

Well, my girlfriend swears by batteries.... :roll: :lol: