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After sprucing up on Spruce in a recent spruce thread, I thought I'd add some observations for any of you dendroidiots in the crowd.

1.) Caucasian Spruce is Picea Orientalis or Oriental Spruce.

2.) White Spruce is Picea Glauca

3.) Caucasian Spruce is NOT White Spruce, but it IS Oriental

4.) White Spruce IS really white

5.) Red Spruce is NOT really red

6.) Black Spruce is NOT really black

7.) Blue Spruce is NOT really blue

And this concludes your spruce studies for the day.
Any further questions, you may consult my assistant at
http://www.lutherie.net/eurospruce.html

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That's pretty straight forward Ray.

Now can you help John with this prototype Florida voting device? :shock:
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Thats not a prototype Grahm.
They have been using that model voting device since......Well, since they invented voting. :D

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When this comes up on eBay, we could nail it; replenish the US supply of guitar tops........may need a little paint remover.....
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No longer using those devices for voting here; going back to punched cards / optical scan....as it turns out, it doesn't matter...we F it up anyway. In Sarasota FL, they have a lawsuit going over the results of a 2006 (touch-screen) Congressional election; inexplicably +/- 18,000 votes didn't get counted...

Voters here in Palm Beach County didn't like the woman who designed the notorious butterfly ballot. The new guy is a former School Board member, confessed tax cheat, and hasn't run a convincing election since he was elected.....Even though the little dorks can't read, the legislature wants to cut its contribution to local schools by $7.1 billion.....

It's ok to pile it on Graham, there really is no excuse....


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capnjuan said:
When this comes up on eBay, we could nail it; replenish the US supply of guitar tops........may need a little paint remover.....

Jeez, what would we do with 50,000 laminated spruce tops? supply that silly masked man for the rest of his business career?
 

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Well Mike; the way I see it, it's either go for the Goose, buy a de-commissioned Romanian wooden minesweeper, or go out in the woods and moon trees creating the much sought-after Moonwood.

I was considering mooning my guitars but research suggests that the magic won't work after the fact. Dang.
 

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capnjuan said:
I was considering mooning my guitars but research suggests that the magic won't work after the fact. Dang.

wouldn't that just be hamming it up a little? (I won't even mention rosewood here)
 

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Probably.....butt ya never know about these things :wink:
 

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According to RT66's research, the labels for the many types of Spruce bear no relation to their color...as Tom Cruise said: "That seems important..." FWIW: my F212's top has red streaks in it...according to the info above, that could make it one of about 6 types ?????? :shock:
 

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Hey Sitka
I was just wondering if you all had about the same sort of trees as us.
Anchorage and Stockholm are virtually sister cities in latitude, except all of our sruce trees are considered White and Black spruce.
The Black spuce are more of a swamp spruce and quite narrow although a 3"" tree might be 100 years old. They are quite hard and dense and burn real hot when dry. The white spruce can get quite large and there are lots of log cabins made of it.
Other than spruce, White Birch is our dominate tree and then the alders and willows with a dense undergrowth of cranberry and ferns and micellaneous wildflowers.
Just wondering if you had about the same on your side of The Pond. Do you have any other hardwoods like maple?

So, Whats up with Norway Spruce otherwise known as European Sruce or Pices Abies. How come its not say, Swedish Spruce? or Findland Spruce.?And do Scandanavians consider themselves Europeans? :)

Its hard to say where common names for trees come from. Sometimes its logical in the case of Blue spruce where the tree boughs have a distinct bluish hue in contrast to the usual green. Other times not, like White Oak wood is a brownish gray color.
Red Oak heart wood has a redish hue to it though. Even in Latin it gets weird, not that Latin isn't already weird enough as it is, for example; Red Spruce is "Picea rubens" and yet Red Maple is "Acer Rubrum" and Northern Red Oak is "Quercus rubra". But then the Latin guys come along and decide to name Southern Red Oak, also known as Spanish Oak or Swamp Red Oak "Quercus falcata." Then to mess your head up even more , they decide to name Scarlet Oak, also known as "Red Oak" or Black Oak" Quercus coccinea.
By any name or color, the maples and oaks will make a great barbeque,

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