Belated New Gear Day, Eastman Guitar.

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Well finally I gave in . Lol I was waiting to get the demo tune done but not yet though soon I hope .
So her she is my Eastman AC822CE FF

Shes a grand orchestra 16" lower bout , body depth is 3 3/4" at neck 4 3/4 " at the tail .
Engleman spruce top , East Indian Rosewood back and sides. Flame Maple banding . 1 3/4 nut string space at saddle 2 5/32" 12" fretboard radius . Gotoh tuners eboney buttons .
Scale Length:25.5" Bass Side 24.75" Treble Side. Pickup is LR Bags Anthem. You find the full specs at Eastman guitars .

My take well, that is I'm blown away ! I have admit the Nitro finish is applied as nice as my custom it feels the same ,Wow! . Fit and finish is tops on the out side . Lol on the inside I give it a B grade actually it's just some glue but you know I'm anal . Haha

The new AC line is incredible sporting sound ports and arm bevels . I almost bought another one . Lol
Tone is wonderful good balance and lovely overtones . It feels great in the hand though it doesn't sport the arm rest it's comfortable to play .

I find the frets a little to low compared to what I'm used to so if and when I regret her I'd go a little taller .Evo golds would look lovely on her.

Lastly to mention again I am totally amazed at the workmanship . I like my Blueridges but Eastman has my Eye for sure and Im very interested other models . They also have some great finish options their hand rubbed antique violin finish which is applied by a woman I think they said that specifically does that work . Wow it's not in house either !

Ok enough of me going on how about some pictures ?

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Seems there sideways again . Why is it loading like that ? I'm not sure .
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i like your yard.
getting some green grass to pop up soon...sweet!

congrats on the Eastman.

and I thought Guild had model naming convention issues...:)
 

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With that xtra hole in upper bout . . . when do we see someone brave enough do that on a Guild just to check if there is any advantage?
 

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With that xtra hole in upper bout . . . when do we see someone brave enough do that on a Guild just to check if there is any advantage?

It's a sound port . It allows the player to hear the guitar as if you are in front of it you could also think of it like a monitor and it does help . If your a finger picker you can more easily here delicate noting that you might not otherwise . 😁

I had to pay extra to get on my custom build guitar .
Arm bevels have also been incorporated into production builds . It cost me 500.00 bucks . Lol

I feel Guild would benefit from having a few modern models but there going slow so it feels to me on models but I might be wrong . I'm waiting for the F30's and F40 orchestra types .
 

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Did it come with a cover for the handhole?

Ralph
 

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i like your yard.
getting some green grass to pop up soon...sweet!

congrats on the Eastman.

and I thought Guild had model naming convention issues...:)

Mostly wild garlic when you mow it it's like cutting onions . I had much of it when I mowed last week my eyes watered the whole time . Lol

This went over my head "
and I thought Guild had model naming convention issues" ??? Lol
 

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Mostly wild garlic when you mow it it's like cutting onions . I had much of it when I mowed last week my eyes watered the whole time . Lol

This went over my head "
and I thought Guild had model naming convention issues" ??? Lol

Eastman AC822CE FF

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Well, if it passed the Rayk test, that's saying something! Gotta love an ebony fretboard, and of course an abalone rosette! But....

Scale Length:25.5" Bass Side 24.75" Treble Side

What the....? How's that work, and why? :unsure:
 

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Well, if it passed the Rayk test, that's saying something! Gotta love an ebony fretboard, and of course an abalone rosette! But....



What the....? How's that work, and why? :unsure:

Better intonation for opening tunings as well as standard . More ergonomic.

Fan fret can vary to more intense faning angles then mine .

Also the scale lenths can be custom to the players needs .
 

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Interesting guitar. Is the fretboard positioned unusually high above the soundboard?

This fellow makes one sound very nice in open D, beginning at around 1:00

 
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Well, if it passed the Rayk test, that's saying something! Gotta love an ebony fretboard, and of course an abalone rosette! But....



What the....? How's that work, and why? :unsure:

As Ray said, as to why, it's the purpose of "fanning" the frets, they're built that way, here's a pretty extreme example to illustrate the "how":
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Ray's Eastman's graduation isn't that extreme so may not be readily visible in the pics you've seen so far, especially on a smaller display.
As you can see the scale actually varies incrementally from string to string to yield a gradual transition from the 25.5 to 24.75 scale between the 2 E's.
Besides the ergonomic & intonation benefits:
"The shorter scale in the treble strings provides a sweeter timbre and the longer scale in the bass strings provides a bit more power."
From post # 18, here:
https://www.jazzguitar.be/forum/guitar-amps-gizmos/57204-wow-fan-fretted-gypsy-guitar.html
The consistently mentioned weakness seems to be a bit of ergonomic difficulty at the far ends of the boards which becomes greater according to how much offset occurs at the nut end.
First fret bar chords in particular could be a little troublesome, for example.
 
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"Listen just to the resonance..."

ROFL it did not sound any more resonant than the Br, and that is really saying something.

again, it's all subjective to the ear one has, still so funny.
 

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On the pic Al posted yes that's one of the extremes of Fanning I was talking about .

If look at the last pic if my guitar and zoom in a bit you will see the faning it's plain as day . Lol

Chording is not a problem on mine . the one in the pic could take a bit to get used to that's all .

Westerly , resonance ? Hmmm was that in the vid ? Anyway one meaning us , the quality in a sound of being deep, full, and reverberating..

I take that that's what he hears a complement to the guitar . Just like yours is and all my other guitars . They all have there unique resonance . Lol

Word if the day !!!
Resonance !
 

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What the....? How's that work, and why? :unsure:
With a compensated bridge saddle (the angle you see the saddle sitting at, and with different strings breaking at different points over the saddle depending on the peak, and also some guitars having a split saddle (Loudons and Avalons for example) the scale length is an average of all the strings divided. What you get from a manufacturer is an average of all the measurements that falls somewhere in the middle of the saddle. Ray was just giving a bass side measurement and a treble side one. Eastman has a number that falls in the middle of those posted as it's official "scale length" even on non-fan fretted guitars, which apparently Ray's is although not extremely. I'm not sure how they officially state the fan fretted ones..... maybe just like Ray said.
 
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With a compensated bridge saddle (the angle you see the saddle sitting at, and with different strings breaking at different points over the saddle depending on the peak, and also some guitars having a split saddle (Loudons and Avalons for example) the scale length is an average of all the strings divided. What you get from a manufacturer is an average of all the measurements that falls somewhere in the middle of the saddle. Ray was just giving a bass side measurement and a treble side one. Eastman has a number that falls in the middle of those posted as it's official "scale length" even on non-fan fretted guitars, which apparently Ray's is although not extremely. I'm not sure how they officially state the fan fretted ones..... maybe just like Ray said.

Um, actually scale length is the distance from the nut to the 12th fret (which is the same for all strings) times 2.
That's what yields the scale length even though in practice each string does vary because of saddle angling.
It's not an "average", it's actually specifically defined and consistently reproducible.
The saddle is angled as a means of compensating for the fact that the formula used to calculate fret spacing doesn't accurately produce the frequencies of the western chromatic scale except at certain points.
So a compromise is struck by shortening the actual string length incrementally as gauge decreases, by angling the saddle.
Compensating the saddle at the B string only compensates for the large difference in tension(wound vs unwound) between the G and B strings which is exaggerated by fretting tension and the shift to tuning the B to the 4th fret of the G string.
 

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Tom just make sure you know , I kind got lost on your post and I see Al broke it down .
But Fan fret guitars are called multi scale . The scale lenths I posted are correct for my guitar as it has two scale lenths . 😊
 

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Tom just make sure you know , I kind got lost on your post and I see Al broke it down .
But Fan fret guitars are called multi scale . The scale lenths I posted are correct for my guitar as it has two scale lenths . ��
Right, bass scale length would be for length from nut to 12th fret on bass E string x2 and treble length would be for same on treble e which is shorter because the fret itself is angled..
Let's just hope we never have to deal with angled nuts.
There's enough of 'em around here already.
 
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