98 Starfire 3 is now a 2.

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Ordered a Harp tail piece from Hans. It got here a lot faster than i thought it would. A few adjustments later, and I have a 98 Starfire 2. When ii got it , it didnt have a pick guard so i ordered a generic one for looks, and so i can rest my pinky on it. Body is still wide, and can only play in short bursts, but it still looks pretty darn cool. First strum and i reached for the Guildsby and it wasn’t there. Go figure. After and before photo.
 

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Maybe consider a wooden bridge, for cosmetics, for me.

The hallowed Bigsby has to be the most dysfunctional trem system - Thx Leo for making us all say it wrong - I've experienced when not using the trem, with the old six screw Strat - Thx again Leo - the most functional of the oldies.
 

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Maybe consider a wooden bridge, for cosmetics, for me.

The hallowed Bigsby has to be the most dysfunctional trem system - Thx Leo for making us all say it wrong - I've experienced when not using the trem, with the old six screw Strat - Thx again Leo - the most functional of the oldies.
I went out and bought a stainless Compton bridge to fit the radious. Had a wooden spare base. Sadly the wooden base would have to be sanded so much Dosen that very little support was left. I wanted to ditch the metal saddle as it helps scratch the top, b it it does sit low enough to keep the action where i like it. I am still looking for a really low profile wood saddle.
 

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I don’t know why people have such a problem with the Bigsby. I love ‘em.

I love a harp, too! Good job.
I use them when i have them, but the last few archtops i got all had one. I was looking to see if it would be lighter to hold, it is, but not by much. It took a while playing this one before i stopped thinking like it was there, and reaching for it.
 
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It looks good on a guitar, but there are some issues, glaring issues for me, starting here;

"When a Bigsby is introduced to the equation, the strings are anchored further back than normal. This causes the tension in the string to increase creating a much “stiffer” feel than if they were strung up with a normal tailpiece."

"Bigsby vibratos were the must-have accessories for pioneering country pickers, rockabilly tearaways and 1960s psychedelic blues experimentalists. These days, they’re as popular as ever with indie rockers and ambient noiseniks.

That’s quite remarkable for a product that has remained essentially unchanged since 1951."

That's the thing, it's not really a hard rock or Blues tool, it's Rockabilly and Jump Blues, and I understand the need to reach for a whammy warble here and there, but the price you pay in playability isn't worth it.

I dropped 2 large on a really nice 60's vintage hollow body - no names mentioned - with a Bigsby, I had finally arrived... except for the absolute miserable playing experience - again for me - of wretchedly high string tension compounded by an inability to exececute any pedal steel - whole step - bends - and I sold it, at a loss, a lesson never to be forgotten.

This is a decent article on the Bigsby Vibrato, as mentioned born in 1951, so Leo no doubt knew it really was a vibrato when he decided to call his vibrato a tremolo, the fabled "synchronized tremolo" and all the tremolos on his amps vibratos.

 
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personally I love playing the Guildsby, Hagstrom Tremar, Fender Floyd Rose Type, and Fender Mustang trems. Guess you either connect with them, or you don't...

Have a few guitars with hardtails that I love, but it just isn't the same.

and the harp tailpiece(s) are a whole nother conversation!
 

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Guildsby, Hagstrom Tremar, Fender Floyd Rose Type

While I love all guitars I have to be practical. I only get a couple minutes a day to play sometimes, and it has to play, not turn into a tuning/retuning session and the Tremar is the only one of these three that passes the test for me.

Bigsby was too much of a hindrance on overall playability, and a Floyd I decided is too much work for something that Leo's original "Synchronized Tremelo" does incredibly well on so many levels, with such good tone.
 
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