60's TV lip synching

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We periodically discover or rediscover video of a 60's band or performer on a TV variety show. Sometimes it is clear that the performance is live, if only because the audio does not match a known/released recording of a song. In other cases it is clear that the performers are miming or lip synching. You can see acrobatics that clearly conflict with playing an instrument or see things like muting the bass strings with a sock toy while pretending to play.

Recently the anniversary of the Doors performance on Ed Sullivan was noted. The Doors only appeared once because Morrison had been asked to change a lyric, had reluctantly agreed and then didn't. Listening to the performance, as far as I can tell it is the studio version of "Light My Fire" with edits for length. Now if it were entirely lip synching then how did people expect Morrison to change a lyric? But were the Doors so tight that it was hard to differentiate between a live and a studio performance? Maybe it was karaoke and so only the vocal was live?

Are there any interesting generalizations concerning pre-recorded, live and hybrid that might apply for may bands or for a specific show? For example I think Dick Cavett had more real live performances than Ed Sullivan, at least as far as pop music goes.
 

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A lot of TV shows were live vocal to backing tracks, if not an entire mime. True live performance were pretty rare, exceptions being things like OGWT, Beat Club, and 'Artist Shows' like The Johnny Cash Show.
 

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A lot of TV shows were live vocal to backing tracks, if not an entire mime. True live performance were pretty rare, exceptions being things like OGWT, Beat Club, and 'Artist Shows' like The Johnny Cash Show.
For 50 years I never asked the question and the live vocal to pre-recorded backing track hadn't occurred to me until now.
 

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A lot of TV shows were live vocal to backing tracks, if not an entire mime. True live performance were pretty rare, exceptions being things like OGWT, Beat Club, and 'Artist Shows' like The Johnny Cash Show.
There's quite a lot of Old Grey Whistle Test performances that are live vocal over a backing track. Dave Mattacks, drummer with Fairport Conventions wore T-shirts with "MIMING" and "BORED" on them and very much undersold his performances as a protest.
 
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Interesting questions! I think it depended on the artist and the show, but I have no idea what the "rules" were. I agree live vocals and mimed playing was very common. The Beatles did there share of miming of TV shows, but here's two fun examples of live playing. The Beatles on Ed Sullivan in 1965. The actual video of the whole "Ticket to Ride" performance is not available on YouTube, but you can tell by the intro, which is included below, it's live - extra guitar verses before the vocals start. Looks like Lennon forgot to walk over to the mic in time!




And then there's the famous "Yesterday" performance, clearly live. Pre-recorded backing strings.



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Tom Jones Show - always live!

Here he is with C,S, N & Y - even they seem impressed!




I also think Dick Cavett performances were always live...



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For 50 years I never asked the question and the live vocal to pre-recorded backing track hadn't occurred to me until now.
Here's a classic example. Reverb on the vocals sounds pretty good for a television studio.
 

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one of my favorite CLEARLY LIVE performances o_O

I think this is yet a different variation. Studio track with alternate vocal (recorded either at the studio, or prerecorded at the television studio) along with general monkee business for the performance.
 

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There was a lot of lip-synching and miming that went on back then, partly because TV didn't know how to deal with loud rock music effectively in many cases. Some musicians accepted it and did their best to pull it off, and some obviously didn't and took it as a joke.

Keith Moon was always one of the worst miming drummers I ever saw, but I wouldn't expect anything less.
 
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