Bonneville88
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1985 Guild D17M
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adorshki
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Here's another one of the all-hog guitars looking for all the world like a "Blonde", like that late Westerly M20 a few days back:
http://www.letstalkguild.com/ltg/showthread.php?194048-As-opposed-to-Coastie-s-condition.
I know I've never seen a D17 that light, and thought the "M" would mean the "dark" 'hog stain.
It's got me wondering if that's a refinish.
The google photos link isn't working for me either.
Oh waitaminnit, Bonneville, is that yours?
It took me a coupla minutes to put 2 and 2 together.
Does it actually say "D17M" on the label?
http://www.letstalkguild.com/ltg/showthread.php?194048-As-opposed-to-Coastie-s-condition.
I know I've never seen a D17 that light, and thought the "M" would mean the "dark" 'hog stain.
It's got me wondering if that's a refinish.
The google photos link isn't working for me either.
Oh waitaminnit, Bonneville, is that yours?
It took me a coupla minutes to put 2 and 2 together.
Does it actually say "D17M" on the label?
txbumper57
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It is the FS/FT section and Bonneville did post it for sale. Best of luck with your listing Bonneville, Looks like a nice one.
TX
Bonneville88
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Thanks.
Finish is original - coloration is a
gorgeous honey-amber on the sides,
top and back are slightly darker, neck
is darker still.
Is the google photo album viewable?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/dLQtY2HzwoxyvuKH2
Label...
Finish is original - coloration is a
gorgeous honey-amber on the sides,
top and back are slightly darker, neck
is darker still.
Is the google photo album viewable?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/dLQtY2HzwoxyvuKH2
Label...
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Yes, the photos are there - great photos, beautiful guitar! Good luck with the sale!
walrus
walrus
adorshki
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It gave me the ol' "404" error.
THANKEE!!!Label...
THERE'S the precedent for the finish on that late '90's M20, then.
AcornHouse
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Aside from Hans stating it was.:tranquillity:
adorshki
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My point was that D17's almost 15 years earlier than that M20, why I said "precedent".
Hans never said anything about that finish appearing anywhere else but the M20, he just said it was correct for that M20.
Of course, he wasn't asked.
:biggrin-new:
Bonneville88
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Al, not sure what the deal is - have emailed the google photos link to several others, all
can see the pics. Clear your cache, try again?
can see the pics. Clear your cache, try again?
txbumper57
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Just to mess up your head even more Al, That is the same "Clear" or "Natural Finish" on Bonneville's 1985 D17M that was on my 1995 Guild D26 Back and sides. The more I think about that guitar the more I am oogling this one. It sure is pretty and I'm not really a fan of all Hog Guitars.
TX
Bonneville88
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Thanks for the comments TX and others. Not terribly happy to be selling this - worked
hard to get it, then spent $$ getting it sorted - but the nut width is a deal-breaker for me.
Looked into trying to spread the strings out on a new nut, but concerned
about ending up with strings too close to the edges of the fretboard -
compared that distance on all my other Westerly Guilds, and the high and low E are pretty much where
they should be relative to fretboard width - so leaving that for the next owner if they
want to go there. That and and I like how the aged, original nut looks on it.
Now for some oddness... the small-feeling neck makes the entire guitar seem physically
smaller when I'm sitting there playing it... and it's not. Same exterior dimensions as
my D30. But there's that feeling nonetheless.
hard to get it, then spent $$ getting it sorted - but the nut width is a deal-breaker for me.
Looked into trying to spread the strings out on a new nut, but concerned
about ending up with strings too close to the edges of the fretboard -
compared that distance on all my other Westerly Guilds, and the high and low E are pretty much where
they should be relative to fretboard width - so leaving that for the next owner if they
want to go there. That and and I like how the aged, original nut looks on it.
Now for some oddness... the small-feeling neck makes the entire guitar seem physically
smaller when I'm sitting there playing it... and it's not. Same exterior dimensions as
my D30. But there's that feeling nonetheless.
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adorshki
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No worries, I was just surprised to see 2 examples of that unstained 'hog within a couple of weeks of each other.
I just thought the "M" would mean it was stained darker, like with the mid '70's D25M's. Spruce tops stained with 'hog colored stain.
Since D17's were 'hog top by definition, you'd think they wouldn't bother with the "M" unless it meant it was stained.
But, silly me, there I go expecting 'em to make sense again.
:glee:
BTW good luck with the sale, Bonneville, my sympathies about your misgivings, and I do think it looks great too.
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Could you post a few more pics? :wink-new:
Just kidding, of course. Great looking Guild, and best of luck with the sale.
Joe
Just kidding, of course. Great looking Guild, and best of luck with the sale.
Joe
Bonneville88
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LOL... how about one more for the road, since there's not a soul in here
that doesn't appreciate a curvy Guild backside :love-struck:
that doesn't appreciate a curvy Guild backside :love-struck:
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That's really cool and the pics are stellar, even if the truss rod cover is upside down. 
How would you describe the sound?
How would you describe the sound?
Bonneville88
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GAD,
Was just playing it the last hour or so, going back and forth between it
and the DCE3.
Not a loud guitar as dreads go... kinda dry & woody sounding... mellow... balanced... very pleasing.
For me, seems to assume a more natural role as as a finger-picking
guitar vs a flatpicking / strumming guitar... in that usage, very expressive, with good dynamics, easy to
dial in vibrato, easy action. I also observe that for some reason the narrow nut width seems less of an issue
when finger picking vs flatpicking / spirited strumming.
Was just playing it the last hour or so, going back and forth between it
and the DCE3.
Not a loud guitar as dreads go... kinda dry & woody sounding... mellow... balanced... very pleasing.
For me, seems to assume a more natural role as as a finger-picking
guitar vs a flatpicking / strumming guitar... in that usage, very expressive, with good dynamics, easy to
dial in vibrato, easy action. I also observe that for some reason the narrow nut width seems less of an issue
when finger picking vs flatpicking / spirited strumming.
hansmoust
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Actually it's not! The finish on the D-17M from 1985 is a 'high gloss' nitro cellulose finish that is similar to the the NB ( Nature Boy) finish that was introduced during the first half of the '70s.
The M-20 from the late '90s had a 'satin' hand-rub finish as standard.
Sincerely,
Hans Moust
www.guitarsgalore.nl
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adorshki
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Thank you! (Forgot to thank you for that M20 input, also).
Couldn't tell the M20 was satin when I was looking at those pics.
And I only remember "Nature Boy" from S-100's, and thought it was darker as well.
I just got a new computer and display, and I'm wondering if all this time I was really seeing things that much darker than "true life", although thinking about it, that M20 was first seen on the old tube as well.
I just don't remember ever seeing all-hog models that light before, only the D26's b/s like TXbumper mentioned.