12-string Acoustic Recommendations?

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great summary here Al:

F112 was based on F30, flatbacked 'hog body, 15" lower bout width (which fluctuated by fractions of a inch over time)

F212/312: Based on F47 16" lower bout width, F212='hog body, F312=rosewood, both flatbacked.

F412: Based on F50, 17" lower bout maple archback. JF30-12 was a "blinged down" version.

F512: Based of F50R, 17" lower bout rosewood flatback although a couple of archback one-offs have been seen here.

F212XL: 17" lower bout version of F212.
Hi, there is a guy selling this as an F-30 12 String. You are the first person I have seen ever mention an F-30 and you called it a ‘hog body’ 15. In your opinion is this one of them? I have never been able to find an F-30 12 String anywhere.

It’s also had the serial removed and ‘Used’ stamped on the headstock. Any information is appropriated. Thanks KP
 

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Depends on your budget. But if it’s a classic Guild 12 string sound you’re after, I like the following USA models. They can be all found used on reverb:

F212. Mahogany back and sides.
F412 Maple back and sides.
F512. Rosewood back and sides.

my favorite is the F312, rosewood back and sides but not as blingy as the 512.

an F112 are great too, hog back and sides.

Then there are the dreads.
D212
D25-12
G212
G312
i recently purchased an f 412
remarkable guitar
 

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Hi, there is a guy selling this as an F-30 12 String. You are the first person I have seen ever mention an F-30 and you called it a ‘hog body’ 15. In your opinion is this one of them? I have never been able to find an F-30 12 String anywhere.

It’s also had the serial removed and ‘Used’ stamped on the headstock. Any information is appropriated. Thanks KP
KrisPage the guitar in your photo is a made in China GAD-JF30-12 not a made in USA guitar. If the seller hasn’t made that clear and/or doesn’t show the label clearly they are trying to pull a fast one. I’ve seen this happen several times.

Also the “used” is a factory second and may have been sent to a third party for repair and then re-serialized, which should be clear on the label.
 
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Hi, there is a guy selling this as an F-30 12 String. You are the first person I have seen ever mention an F-30 and you called it a ‘hog body’ 15. In your opinion is this one of them? I have never been able to find an F-30 12 String anywhere.

It’s also had the serial removed and ‘Used’ stamped on the headstock. Any information is appropriated. Thanks KP
That looks like a MIC GAD series 12 based on the pick guard and overall look. Can’t tell from pic re body size really. I think an F112 is more what you’d be after to get a F30-12.
 

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The F-112 model is pretty much a F-30 sized 12 string.
It is an F30 with 12-string neck, atop braced for 12 stings, and a beefier neckblock.
Hi, there is a guy selling this as an F-30 12 String. You are the first person I have seen ever mention an F-30 and you called it a ‘hog body’ 15. In your opinion is this one of them? I have never been able to find an F-30 12 String anywhere.

It’s also had the serial removed and ‘Used’ stamped on the headstock. Any information is appropriated. Thanks KP
Hi Chris, Woody was quoting me there. The F112 was based on the F30.

The guitar you linked a pic of is actually a GAD-JF30-12, it has a 17" lower 'bout and a maple arched back body. Assuming you've quoted the seller correctly, they're obviously confused about the fact that JF30 and F30 are 2 different body types.

The used stamp is a sign it's been through a refurbishing house, MIRC, as Fender routinely replaced rather than repair those guitars when a warranty claim was made as they didn't consider in-house repair to be cost efficient. They sold the warranty return guitars to MIRC.

To be fair they didn't keep any parts inventory on hand for the MIC models and touching up the poly lacquer if needed would have been problematic, too, while the US builds all still used NCL.

2010 catalog page:
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Can't advise about whether it's worth the asking price although in general I'd guess you could do much better than an MIC model with a used stamp, in case you think you may wind up selling it later on. Those used stamps and barcode s/n labels are red flags to a lot of people, even though MIRC is a legitimate outfit and the actual repair may have been pretty simple.;)
 
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