jcwu
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I see GUNARCEMER
Fender Strat "built for Guitar Center"
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I see GUNARCEMER
SFIV1967
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Good point. But who or what is Gunar Cemer? Not a person according to Google.
Ralf
ruedi
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Maybe it's a hidden message? an anagram? car unmerge? cure german? acne mr urge? arm cure neg? can mere rug?None of this makes me want to buy it though.
Seller wrote back, next week he will dismantle the neck and send photos of whatever appears. Stay tuned.
I don't know if you guys are kidding, but it's obviously "Guitar Center" with a font that has the "T" look like a "7".
walrus
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ruedi
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Ok ok it was not overly funny, just messing around a bit to cope with my disappointment. I just would have loved to have another NGD
ruedi
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Update: the seller has posted some more pictures. I think they speak for themselves....
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I guess I'm hard of hearing
Seriously what do these tell us? Does something indicate an intent to deceive - convince someone that the instrument was made by Fender when it wasn't? Does something support or refute my hypothesis that this instrument was assembled from genuine Fender parts but that neither FMIC or Guitar Center (corporate) knew or approved of the "made for" markings? Something else?Thanks.
ruedi
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I guess I'm hard of hearing
Thanks.
Ok, lets see.
I do not think I can fundamentally refute your hypothesis, Frono. But there are a few things that make me wonder.
On the body it is the obviously pretty bad paint job. The paint is thin and peels off in a strange way on the edge. Then the different faded stamps. On the neck one stamp seems to be completely blacked out before the new one was added.
I suppose your hypothesis can work somehow, but in my opinion these are probably not original Fender parts, especially because the neck is missing the string retainer, as Ralf noticed.
Well yes, the serial number and the Fender branding on the headstock. Fender wrote me that this is an illegitimate product, so this is already an attempt at counterfeiting, isn't it?
Guildedagain
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This one is the mirror IMIJ, like JIMI's Olympic White Strat but this one is a '74. Fussed over it for years, partially scalloped the fingerboard by hand with single edged razor blades only, a fingerboard like no other. Magic electronics. The most uncanny reverb comes out of the back of the guitar, like it has a little amp inside and the whole thing vibrates against your chest strummed acoustically in a way that's unapproached by any of my other electrics. A steely sustain - I attribute to the trem - unlike any other guitar, it's 100% metallic sounding, does not sound like a wooden guitar sustaining at all.
It's somewhat extensively modified, but was even more so when I got it, it had EMG's and Schaller tuners. I'm thinking previous owner was a big Gilmour fan. Actually celebrity owned but I was never allowed to find out who it was for privacy reasons.
The lesson for you with this near miss for a fairly obvious fake is stop looking at other Stratocasters. They do not take kindly to it.
It's somewhat extensively modified, but was even more so when I got it, it had EMG's and Schaller tuners. I'm thinking previous owner was a big Gilmour fan. Actually celebrity owned but I was never allowed to find out who it was for privacy reasons.
The lesson for you with this near miss for a fairly obvious fake is stop looking at other Stratocasters. They do not take kindly to it.
ruedi
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Wow Guilded, this is a super nice strat! The scalloped fingerboard would drive me crazy though 
But you probably get used to it, don't you?
You're probably right about that, especially because I do already own an absolute killer strat. But i bet you know how it is, once your sleeve gets sucked in...
But you probably get used to it, don't you?You're probably right about that, especially because I do already own an absolute killer strat. But i bet you know how it is, once your sleeve gets sucked in...
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After being a long time G&L (Leo Era) player. A stock Strat just doesn't do it for me. Even the vintage ones. Compared my '89 S-500 I had through the 90's with an original '62 Strat. There was no comparison at all, in tone, build quality, feel nothing. Which is why I found out that Fender threw down a gantlet when G&L first came out. I was told by Dale Hyatt, G&L sales rep. Fender threatened stores all over the country, to pull G&L or they would pull Fender's full line. At that time, most instruments were floored. Meaning they were lent on spec to the stores. Mr Hyatt told me that G&L's were being returned by the truck load. I was lucky enough to get two of the original F-100's in 1980. Those guitars ruined any chance of me looking at Fender. And it was another 20 years before I bought another Strat ot Tele. Today I have one G&L left. A 1987 ASAT III. I also have one Strat a 2000 MIM with Sperzel tuners, Calaham bridge, and Seymore Duncan Lil 59's. To my ears its the best sounding Strat I've ever owned. Mainly because, it doesn't sound like a strat at all.
ruedi
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After being a long time G&L (Leo Era) player. A stock Strat just doesn't do it for me. Even the vintage ones. Compared my '89 S-500 I had through the 90's with an original '62 Strat. There was no comparison at all, in tone, build quality, feel nothing. Which is why I found out that Fender threw down a gantlet when G&L first came out. I was told by Dale Hyatt, G&L sales rep. Fender threatened stores all over the country, to pull G&L or they would pull Fender's full line. At that time, most instruments were floored. Meaning they were lent on spec to the stores. Mr Hyatt told me that G&L's were being returned by the truck load. I was lucky enough to get two of the original F-100's in 1980. Those guitars ruined any chance of me looking at Fender. And it was another 20 years before I bought another Strat ot Tele. Today I have one G&L left. A 1987 ASAT III. I also have one Strat a 2000 MIM with Sperzel tuners, Calaham bridge, and Seymore Duncan Lil 59's. To my ears its the best sounding Strat I've ever owned. Mainly because, it doesn't sound like a strat at all.
Not too much Fender Strat-Love here
But wow, assuming this Dale Hyatt- Story is true.... Not nice. Not nice.