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Hey everyone, I'm the owner of a Guild Pilot Pro 4 string and I'm about to take it in for a set up. What are some recommendations for strings? I'm a non-pick player. Thank you :)
 

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Do you prefer flat or round wound? I have a set of D'Addario Chrome flats (45-100) on my fretless Pilot, and I think they sound great. I have their round wound equivalents on my fretted Pilots, and they sound great too.
 
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I've never tried flat before so I can't really say. I really like D'Addario, I use Phosphor Bronze on my D25 and prefer them more than any other string I've tried. Thanks for the feedback.
 

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I've never tried flat before so I can't really say. I really like D'Addario, I use Phosphor Bronze on my D25 and prefer them more than any other string I've tried. Thanks for the feedback.

You're welcome! Flat wounds are a lot easier on your fingers if you don't use a pick, and should always be used on fretless because they won't chew up the fingerboard. D'Addario Chromes also sound quite a bit brighter that typical flat wounds, and if you want a little brighter still, they make a half round variety (ENR71).
 

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I have D'Addario rounds on mine. Could probably find the package. I don't use a pick. I have a love/hate with rounds and if I decided I needed new strings I'd go for flats right now.
 

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I have some of my Pilots strung with these:

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Then I have others strung with these:

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Apparently I must be a caveman. When playing I can't tell the difference between the gauges! (I mean it is only .005"!)
 
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Hey everyone, I'm the owner of a Guild Pilot Pro 4 string and I'm about to take it in for a set up. What are some recommendations for strings? I'm a non-pick player. Thank you :)

What kind of sound are you going after? Do you want super bright? Or thumpy and dark? Or somewhere in-between? What kind of music are you playing?

My sweat kills the brightness on strings, so lately I've either been using flats (heavy LaBellas) or darker rounds like DR nickel Lo-Riders, which have a little more tension than the stainless steel Hi-Beams. That's another question actually - what kind of tension are you after?

All said and done, I think a basic set of D'Addario rounds, maybe the 45-100 set, would be a good place to start.
 

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Flats are easier on frets as well as on fingers.

I'm another fan of Chromes who doesn't slap or use a pick, but have never played a Pilot so am somewhat disqualified from offering an opinion in this specific case.
 

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What kind of sound are you going after? Do you want super bright? Or thumpy and dark? Or somewhere in-between? What kind of music are you playing?

My sweat kills the brightness on strings, so lately I've either been using flats (heavy LaBellas) or darker rounds like DR nickel Lo-Riders, which have a little more tension than the stainless steel Hi-Beams. That's another question actually - what kind of tension are you after?

All said and done, I think a basic set of D'Addario rounds, maybe the 45-100 set, would be a good place to start.

I'm currently using D'Addario EXL165 (reg light top, med bottom). I'm not into super bright (I lean more towards dark / thumpy but not muddy). The kind of stuff I like is Everly Brothers, CCR, Blue Rodeo, John Denver and folky kind of stuff.
 

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I'm currently using D'Addario EXL165 (reg light top, med bottom). I'm not into super bright (I lean more towards dark / thumpy but not muddy). The kind of stuff I like is Everly Brothers, CCR, Blue Rodeo, John Denver and folky kind of stuff.

Now might be the time to experiment with flats then! D'Addario Chromes are a bit on the bright side for flats, but mellow out after being played for a while. They are a little on the higher-tension side though. LaBellas as well, though some people find that the low E string is much deader than the others, which again takes time to even out. TI Flats are super low tension - some love that, some not so much. String experimenting can be fun, it can be frustrating, and it can certainly be expensive!
 

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Thanks! My Pilot is fretted. Any concerns using flats on a fretted bass?
 

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Thanks! My Pilot is fretted. Any concerns using flats on a fretted bass?

Not that I have ever heard - it's usually the other way around, being cautious using rounds on a fretless bass. Flatwounds should be easier on the frets than stainless steel rounds, for example.

The only thing to worry about possibly is stringing through the body with flats - LaBella says you shouldn't do it, the angle over the saddle is too sharp (?) and can break the outer wrap. I forget what Pilot bridges look like, but if it's just through the tailpiece you should be fine. Every now and again the string can be too thick at the ball end and not fit all the way into the hole, but that's usually only with crazy heavy strings like the LaBella 1954 strings (used to be called the James Jamerson set) with a .110 E string!

Be aware that if you used to rounds, flats may sound pretty dead and lifeless to you. Especially if you are just playing the bass acoustically. But through an amp, they give a fundamental that to me is different than rounds. It's kind of a different approach sonically.
 
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