Interesting read, although not much mention or Guild.
AGM on Guitar Sizes
AGM on Guitar Sizes
I've seen this recently, somewhere, and following the colored lines is difficult at best for my old eyes. An interactive page would be best.......click the designation 0, 00, 0M etc and the outline becomes solid or all others disappear.I think it would be easier to understand if the body shape outlines were side by side starting from smallest to largest. It's a little bit of a spaghetti mess as shown.
At least George would've known that the F40 is a 16" lower bout mini-jumbo.And don't bother for Guild... Pointless.
I notice George Gruhn was consulted for the article.
Uh oh. Them's is fighting words (if you happen to work for Oxnard).At least George would've known that the F40 is a 16" lower bout mini-jumbo.
Even within body shapes there is quite the variety of tone. I'm firmly in the dread camp, but my 70 D35 has proven that I like a balanced tone for the most part, and clarity. My Santa Cruz manages clarity with a fatter voice. It manages to pretty much do it all, while still being a mahogany/sitka guitar. It may very well be due to a bit less depth clamping down on the bass. Even my Martin D 35 Custom is not typical of a D 35. It's a very dry, for a rosewood Martin, guitar. All this is in the realm of a dread shape, which no smaller shape can produce. So how confusing is the fact every company feels the need to not be Martin clones? Even Martin. The best thing to do, it seems to me is just find guitars to play, I find the internet to be information, much of it conflicting, overload. But I'm coming from an area where I can get my hands on most any guitar I want to play. That, and owning a few guitars, has led me to my own conclusions.
When Gruhn came on board the F20 and the F30 got lost. Much like Cordoba having no "slot" in their model number system for a 16" Grand Auditorium (F40), George never did give us a hint as to what he'd be calling F20's and F30's after he was done with F and JF.And don't bother for Guild... Pointless.
I notice George Gruhn was consulted for the article.
Actually they do mention the Guild A-20 "Marley" (Gaaack!), though I don't know why they bothered...Interesting read, although not much mention or Guild.
AGM on Guitar Sizes
For sure, George has his personal preferences- strong ones, too.When Gruhn came on board the F20 and the F30 got lost. Much like Cordoba having no "slot" in their model number system for a 16" Grand Auditorium (F40), George never did give us a hint as to what he'd be calling F20's and F30's after he was done with F, J, and JF.
Assuming he intended to do something with 'em.
That the F-60 was a 16" Jumbo style didn't surprise me either.
Mike, did you mean "GF-60", or the S60 you mention below, as both are 16" lower bout bodies? I'm thinking it's an understandable typo.
As far as I can tell, S60 started out as Studio 24, basically a flattop Starfire outline (I suspect it begat the "Prestige" series which in turn were replaced with theBut has anyone ever see an S-60 for real? The Studio guitar that had all the features Gruhn thought would be the makings of a superior recording guitar? That one deserves its own topic on the forum. To me, the S-60 is the Edsel of the guitar world- there has to be a few of them out there, somewhere, but to me, it's evidence of his personal preferences running amuck.
I have a video of our own @Christopher Cozad playing a S60/Studio 24 when @ladytexan cajoled our way into the upstairs at George's old store when it was still on Main Street.But has anyone ever see an S-60 for real? The Studio guitar that had all the features Gruhn thought would be the makings of a superior recording guitar? That one deserves its own topic on the forum. To me, the S-60 is the Edsel of the guitar world- there has to be a few of them out there, somewhere, but to me, it's evidence of his personal preferences running amuck.
Like the rest of you , I have never seen any reference to an S-60. I do have one of the few Studio 24's that I have seen in what amounted to a pretty extensive search of the net in the years leading up to my lucking into it in 2013. After receiving it, I had a dual K&K system installed ( Pure mini transducers + Double Helix soundhole - both are passive).As far as I can tell, S60 started out as Studio 24, basically a flattop Starfire outline
As far as I'm seeing specs were same as Studio 24 as pictured in Hans' book, but I think this graph shows why they changed it to "S-60" under Gruhn's new system, because it has the same appointments as the D60 and GF60.
Kim Walker has mentioned carrying out some of George's design ideas after he was gone.