Can anybody help me with information on this guitar?

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Luka, I too feel that the price is rather high for a guitar in that condition, even for Europe. If I were you I'd hold off for another D-25 or offer (a lot) less. Having said that, there aren't a ton of the black-finished ones around... If you're into that Johnny Cash look....
 
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As Hans has said, it's solid mahogany sides, and laminated mahogany arched back. In this case laminate isn't a cost saving thing but is used to create the arched shape which strengthens the back to the point that the back cross and center bracing can be eliminated. If it was maple, it would be a D30.

Agree that this guitar looks "beat to hell" as Effin has mentioned. That price might fly here in the states if it was NOS or something, but that's just used to death. Go try that F40 and see what you think. If nothing else, I'd negotiate the price pretty hard based on condition, but your deposit kinda says you agree to the price. Consider carefully.
 
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Maybe it sounds gorgeous because of the laminate back.

It's a stigma Guild will never be able to shake apparently.

I loaned my archback - proper terminology - Guild F30 to a pro player for a much anticipated CD release party last night, and what an incredible guitar, sounded great and stayed in tune throughout the whole gig, into the damp evening.

The gal has a Santa Cruz and a Martin EC, never said a thing about the Guild besides it's easier to play than her guitars and has a cutaway. The archback was never noticed, discussed.

It's just a Guild to me, the archback is part and parcel of the territory.

You'll find the Guild to be a very reliable guitar, tonally.

To me there is nothing "beat to hell" about the D25, looks like the honest playwear of a guitar with good tone, whereas the F40 looks like bland nothing to me, it's not vintage, it's not a good investment. The Mahogany grain is so plain I can barely stand to look at it.
 
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Hi Luk, and welcome to LTG. I really can't offer any advice, but wish you the best while you sort out what direction to take on your next guitar purchase. I hope you find the one that speaks to you.
 
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Heath said:
I’m confused, you haven’t played it, but earlier you said it plays like a dream and sounds gorgeous?

I’d say if you really like it and are comfortable with the price (a bit high if you’re in the US, but again, this has a pickup and a fret job so might be about right) just get it :)
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I was replying to someone who asked me if I played the f40 on the website of the same shop. I'm in ireland so guitars like this are scarce.

I have played the d-25 in question but not the f40 that the person I was replying too asked about.
 
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Guildedagain said:
Maybe it sounds gorgeous because of the laminate back.

It's a stigma Guild will never be able to shake apparently.

I loaned my archback - proper terminology - Guild F30 to a pro player for a much anticipated CD release party last night, and what an incredible guitar, sounded great and stayed in tune throughout the whole gig, into the damp evening.

The gal has a Santa Cruz and a Martin EC, never said a thing about the Guild besides it's easier to play than her guitars and has a cutaway. The archback was never noticed, discussed.

It's just a Guild to me, the archback is part and parcel of the territory.

You'll find the Guild to be a very reliable guitar, tonally.

To me there is nothing "beat to hell" about the D25, looks like the honest playwear of a guitar with good tone, whereas the F40 looks like bland nothing to me, it's not vintage, it's not a good investment. The Mahogany grain is so plain I can barely stand to look at it.
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Thank you for educating me on the use of laminate in this guitar. I have now learned that laminate is used in high quality guitars also and is more a design choice than anything cost related. Not sure why this stigma exists as from what I used to read online people are acting like laminate means that the guitar is made from cardboard.

As for the guitar being beat to hell, I am actually more attracted to the look and feel of guitars like this and if people played it that much, its usually a damn good guitar.

I'll play that f40 but it really doesn't appeal to me. I agree with your assessment of it.
 
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The guitar looks trashed...sorry. We must have greatly different definitions of "honest playwear."

That's a premium price for a D-25 in that condition. Not saying it couldn't be a great guitar, but it's way overpriced.
 
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FNG said:
The guitar looks trashed...sorry. We must have greatly different definitions of "honest playwear."

That's a premium price for a D-25 in that condition. Not saying it couldn't be a great guitar, but it's way overpriced.
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Keep in mind that I am in ireland where guitars are scarce never mind vintage guilds. Also the shop owner is giving me a life time warranty for any problems that I may have with it.

Anyways back to the point of prices, a taylor 214 is 1400 euro here. That is the level that inflation or imports and everything had made prices at this point.
 
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Thx for that.

I'm thinking they've made more D25's than almost any other model during the Westerly period, so you're joining a big club of devout fans.

The black finish is in a class of its own, darker smokier tone? ;]

Very classy, I like my black Guild.

I don't have a decent pic because it will never be for sale, but it has dimples, dings, crazing, like the D25. I showed it after a CD release party last night, and all the comment were highly favorable, the wear, the look, people dig it.

Far from boring.

Here it is with a natural counterpart, also showing some ding cover up w/sharpie, done right it really made the guitar look better.

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Not to disagree with another member, I'd never do that... but the guitar is far from "trashed".

Mine has similar wear and all the comments after the show last night were all oohs and ahhhs, and then I put it away in the case as the dew was getting rather intense.
 
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Guildedagain said:
Thx for that.

I'm thinking they've made more D25's than almost any other model during the Westerly period, so you're joining a big club of devout fans.

The black finish is in a class of its own, darker smokier tone? ;]

Very classy, I like my black Guild.
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The black is gorgeous. Such a warm sound. Colour and finish does affect tone in my opinion I agree:)
 
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Could it perhaps be a D30? Maple back and sides. I had one that was fabulous sounding.
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I wasn't sure about color vs tone til I got into Silverburst Les Pauls way back when and they had such an odd tone compared to other Les Pauls, it was undeniable.

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Guildedagain said:
I wasn't sure about color vs tone til I got into Silverburst Les Pauls way back when and they had such an odd tone compared to other Les Pauls, it was undeniable.

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Are you saying the color of a guitar affects the way it sounds?
 
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FNG said:
Are you saying the color of a guitar affects the way it sounds?
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I think if you really love a black guitar, that when you play it, it sounds exactly the way you want a black guitar to sound!! And that's kind of important. And if you understand what I just said, PM me and let me know WTF it was.
 
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davismanLV said:
I think if you really love a black guitar, that when you play it, it sounds exactly the way you want a black guitar to sound!! And that's kind of important. And if you understand what I just said, PM me and let me know WTF it was.
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Yep, Tom's right as usual. I couldn't have expressed it better myself.
 
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Playability and sound mean 100x more to me than appearance. As long as it's a player, and you can't put it down, I'll take a well worn played hard guitar over a case kept flawless anyday. As long as her vitals are in tact. You pay what you're willing for what you want. Yes, the price is high, but that is also based on condition alone. Again, cosmetic. Superficial, and should never come between someone and a guitar if it just feels right. But at the end of the day(and I HATE using that phrase) did the guitar feel special when you played it? It must have to put money down. If you are having doubts.....go play it again. That way you won't have the first timers Rose colored lenses. It helps to sleep on it, then go back and see while you have teetered in your decision. You'll be more honest to yourself. If she's a player that will never see the case(except to transport) and you pick her up every time you walk in the room...go for it!
 
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@Midnight Toker has some very sage advice. Instead of staying home and asking us what WE would do, stop the emotional and mental gymnastics and go play that sucker again. Second time might give you more what you need than any amount of banter on a guitar forum. Trying to remember a sound is a difficult thing. Go, play it. See how old the strings are. Then (if you're me) you're gonna start bartering like crazy and go with the whole "I like it but it's kinda beat up and there are people in the US who'll enable me and get me a nicer condition one....." but that's just ME again. You do YOU and go see what you loved about it the first time. Right?? (y)(y)
 
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