Do guitars open up if not played?

SteveT

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I just bought an absolutely mint 1999 Guild M-20 (Hans confirmed the serial number and I sent him the build date). I don't think it has been played much, if at all, and it even had the original tags in the case. I know guitars open up over time but do they have to be played for this to happen? Any advice on other M-20 owners and how their guitars changed over time. Thanks!
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Lots of anecdotes that guitars open up over time. And let's face it, no one can "prove" that they don't.

General belief is that they open up with playing. Again, lots of anecdotes.

There is/was a product that essentially vibrated your guitar in the belief that your guitar would open up faster. It was controversial in the sense that its effectiveness was based upon anecdotes. Some folks reported "success" with a homebrew device that was similar but played music through a speaker to vibrate the top,

So I would encourage you to play your guitar and not be surprised if it opens up. If it doesn't then either you got an anecdotal dud or maybe it was played more than it shows.
 

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Steve,

The device frono is talking about is this: https://www.tonerite.com/

I have no personal experience with it. And, as far as guitars opening up, I always tell people to buy with their ears and not to expect major transformations in tone.

Having said that, I have experienced major changes in tone due to string changes, so I always recommend trying a variety of strings on their axes before deciding one way or the other as to whether they like the tone or not.
 

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Oh, I will add that if those Bob Benedetto and Tim McKnight endorsements are legit it might be worth taking the plunge to try the device. Those guys make wonderful guitars.
 

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I know guitars open up over time but do they have to be played for this to happen?

I believe it happens, and would say that my '11 F-30 has definitely opened up since I bought it used 3 years ago. It had not been played much if at all by the previous owner.

So making that assumption, "opening up" is caused by the guitar vibrating over time, from playing it. So the answer to your question is "yes". Guitars can't open up if they are never played.

My opinion, for what it's worth, is that as a guitar player, I have no interest in using a machine to do something I can do by playing the guitar a lot!

Congratulations on the guitar BTW!

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Thanks for all the great feedback and here is a picture of her. I threw on some Elixir Nanoweb 12's to start with but will try different strings to see how the tone changes. I'm always looking for string recommendations so fee free to forward those too. Very interesting gadget that Tonerite is. Amazing what people can think of but I will just play the guitar to see how she changes over time.
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Thanks for all the great feedback and here is a picture of her. I threw on some Elixir Nanoweb 12's to start with but will try different strings to see how the tone changes. I'm always looking for string recommendations so fee free to forward those too. Very interesting gadget that Tonerite is. Amazing what people can think of but I will just play the guitar to see how she changes over time.
M20.jpeg
I favorite strings are Martin retros. Nickel monel. I use them on all my acoustics.
 

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If you don't play them it is hard to tell. They definitely open up more when played. That's why a tone-rite works. It worked on my D-40 that I didn't play much. Some use one before performances to open up more, indicating lack of playing may "close up". Humidity changes also effect tone. Each guitar may like certain strings better than others. I like GHS and DR strings.
 

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Will throw out an analogy that may make no sense or connect with members thoughts and roast me all you want.
"Breaking in a new baseball glove" analogous to "opening up of acoustic guitar." Well, here goes!
Growing up on a working farm in rural Tennessee, I fell in love with sports. I never remember throwing a rock, stick, corncob, walnut, or persimmon at just the side of a barn, tree, cow, or pig. I threw at a particular knot, a head, a back leg, or my sister's.
When I got old enough and started asking about a "store bought" baseball glove one did not come immediately. But on my 10th birthday mamma made me a cake and when she brought it to the dinner (midday meal) table in a closed cake container, she told me to open it. When I opened it, no cake, but a new $7.59 baseball glove. It took me a long time playing pitch (thousands of catches) to get that glove broken in where the ball didn't just pop out before I could squeeze it on the ball.
Fast forward eight years and I got a job as bulldozer operator's "gopher" and decided I wanted a really good baseball glove. I spent $175 dollars on the best Rawlings infielders glove Nashville Sporting Goods had. The good glove did not take nearly as long - you could use it in a game after a week. I am sure the quality of leather and how it was stitched plus eight years of company improvements helped.
I am thinking higher end acoustic guitars do not take as long as less expensive guitars to open up.
Woods, bracings, and glues surely react quicker and "open up" differently. I would say you get more consistency from high end guitars.
 

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Steve, that's a really beautiful guitar. I can't recall seeing one in natural finish like that with the mahogany top. Pretty stunning if you ask me.

Good luck in the "tone hunt." :D
 

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My Martin D-35 goes to sleep when it isn't played for a long period of time.
I have to wake it up, by playing it for a half hour or so.
Not sure what happens but the guitar starts out tight sounding after long storage
and opens back up after being played for a little while.
Some will say it is just my ear but I can definitely hear the difference.
 

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Nice guitar Steve, love the grain on that top!
 

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My vote is “yes” based on very limited experience. I’ve had a couple guitars that had sat dormant for years until I purchased them. After playing daily for several weeks I noticed a difference in tone.
 

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I think that age without playing is not going to yield the desired result. Over a twenty year period I played every guitar on the used wall at Gryphon, paying extra attention to the very common D 28. I played many20 year old D 28s, and I found the heavy playwear guitars to be better in every instance. I never can recall a closet queen D 28 of the same age that was satisfying. In fact the most satisfying D 18s and D 28s were pretty beat up finish worn to wood beyond the pick guard bluegrasser instruments. Now I can't say with any certainty that they weren't better guitars to begin with. Now another issue is guitars going to sleep, and I had an M 36 Martin that, if not played for a couple of months, needed about half an hour to come alive. So my seat of the pants speculation is guitars need to vibrate as well as age.
 
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