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    Kurt's 1970s S200

    Kurt (Grot) asked me to post this for him in the thread where we were talking about it. I posted it here for search-ability.



    One of the interesting things about this guitar that isn't obvious from the pic is that the HB1 pickups have hex-screw pole pieces. I have one of those pickups in my collection which I could be convinced to take pictures of if you're interested.
    1970s: [ S70 | S300ADs ]
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    1990s: [ X2000 | X3000 | X4000s | DV72 | BHM1 | JF30-12 | Songbird ]
    2000s: [ SF3 | SF4 | B-90 | BB-90 | X160R | X500T | D55 ]
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    Color me interested!
    "Steve, you are a man of many goats."~ capnjuan

    "Alternatively, you could just go the ultra-relic route with it. Basically go for a look that says the amp was on fire and they put it out using belt sanders."
    (amps - I need a "99" & "50")

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    Here you go. The pickup measures 16k, so it's quite a departure from the normal HB1.





    1970s: [ S70 | S300ADs ]
    1980s: [ X79-3 | X80s | X82 | X100 | X175 | S281 | BHM1 ]
    1980s: [ Detonator | Liberator + Elite | SF4 | AA ]
    1990s: [ S100 | X160 | X170 | X170T | SF3,5 | BB | NB | NB DX ]
    1990s: [ X2000 | X3000 | X4000s | DV72 | BHM1 | JF30-12 | Songbird ]
    2000s: [ SF3 | SF4 | B-90 | BB-90 | X160R | X500T | D55 ]
    2010s:
    [ Jetstar | R30 | D55 ]

    My Reviews: [ GADsGuilds.com ] Guild Documents: [ Catalogs ] [ Price Lists ] [ Ads, Flyers, etc. ]

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    16 Kohms! Holy guacamole that's a hot pickup.

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    What is the difference, soundwise, compared to a regular HB-1?
    "Steve, you are a man of many goats."~ capnjuan

    "Alternatively, you could just go the ultra-relic route with it. Basically go for a look that says the amp was on fire and they put it out using belt sanders."
    (amps - I need a "99" & "50")

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    Here's a little video from LMG II where Bluespicky takes my S-200 out for a spin. Holding down the bottom end is Krysh on bass!

    Last edited by The Guilds of Grot; 10-11-2019 at 05:50 PM.

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    It's Pascal!
    I was more curious of the side by side differences.
    "Steve, you are a man of many goats."~ capnjuan

    "Alternatively, you could just go the ultra-relic route with it. Basically go for a look that says the amp was on fire and they put it out using belt sanders."
    (amps - I need a "99" & "50")

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    DiMarzio Super Distortions in disguise?

    -Dave-
    1962 F-20 Troubadour
    1970 M-75 Bluesbird
    1971 S-100 "Black Cherry"
    1973 S-100 "Nature Boy"
    1990 Nightbird Custom
    1999 X-170T
    2013 NS M-75 Aristocrat
    2016 NS S-200 T-bird

    c. 1971 Foxey Lady

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantum Strummer View Post
    DiMarzio Super Distortions in disguise?

    -Dave-
    If it's early '70's isn't a wee bit too early for that?
    BUT you did remind me of our member who posted the backstories about actually "being there", who was it again?
    Ahh, here we go, post #1:
    http://www.letstalkguild.com/ltg/sho...ghlight=torres
    "Prior to 1976 the aftermarket pickup market was pretty much non-existent. If you had a pickup that went bad or wanted "something different" back then you had very few choices... You salvaged one out of a repair shop bone pile, ordered a replacement from the manufacturer (which may not have been possible with some odd/off brand guitars), or you knew someone who could rewind it for you. And you could count those guys on the fingers of one hand. They had names like Bill Lawrence, Larry Dimarzio, & Seymour Duncan. & they were busy guys with a pretty exclusive clientele... I hope you knew somebody, who knew somebody, who... well... you get the idea.
    In Dimarzio's case he was hand winding custom pickups in his Staten Island shop. The first being the now famous Super Distortion."


    Maybe you got somethin' there!
    As in maybe Guild asked 'im to build some hot pickups for them?
    Or else the guys at Guild were simply on to the same thing?
    Last edited by adorshki; 10-11-2019 at 07:22 PM.
    Al
    "Time May Change the Technique of Music But Never Its Mission " - Rachmaninoff
    My 1st Guild: '96 Westerly D25NT "Hally" (10-31-96 stamped on heelblock)
    #2: '01 Westerly F65ce "Blondie"
    #3: '03 Corona D40e Richie Havens "Richie"
    All bought new!

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    Al, I think the Super Distortion (and Dual Sound: same thing but with coil-splitting capability) came out in '71 or '72 so it should be early enough. Of course the demand for hotter pickups was already there—thus Gibson's Super Humbucker (aka "Tarback") from around the same time—so Guild could've come up with much the same thing themselves.

    -Dave-
    1962 F-20 Troubadour
    1970 M-75 Bluesbird
    1971 S-100 "Black Cherry"
    1973 S-100 "Nature Boy"
    1990 Nightbird Custom
    1999 X-170T
    2013 NS M-75 Aristocrat
    2016 NS S-200 T-bird

    c. 1971 Foxey Lady

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