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    We love our Guilds...but retirement investments they aren't...except maybe for Grot...he's got enough that they might add up.

    There's little chance you could insure yours for replacement cost or even find a replacement.

    That makes it scarce...not valuable.

    I once owned Mosrite Bluesbender serial#1...a fun instrument that I had to sell...did I get a fortune for it from a collector? No...all limited edition instruments have limited market interest...sold it for a bit more than I paid...didn't pay a fortune...so enjoy it, take care of it, and what was your friend smoking back in the day with that offer? Maybe he was yanking your chain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuildFS4612CE View Post
    That makes it scarce...not valuable.
    Good point!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuildFS4612CE View Post
    That makes it scarce...not valuable.
    Great distinction, Jane!! I was wondering how to put that into words......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibble View Post
    It has to be worth more than the righty.... But, by how much???
    Quote Originally Posted by adorshki View Post
    Guild frequently had a note that left hand versions of most models were available for a price adder.
    See the note at the bottom left hand of this price list for example:
    http://www.westerlyguildguitars.com/files/86PL1.jpg
    So part of the answer is there in this link. 10% it is for the buying price when new, not necessarily for the selling price due to very much reduced market demand for LH versions. If the RH version was $799 list price the LH version was $879. But that's also right in the ballpark where RH versions of it sell today looking on ebay for instance. A prototype would have had a prototype serial number or a prototype marking on the label but I doubt somebody (except with lots of luck) would pay extra for it, as GAD for instance explained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SFIV1967 View Post
    A prototype would have had a prototype serial number or a prototype marking on the label but I doubt somebody (except with lots of luck) would pay extra for it, as GAD for instance explained.
    Ralf
    Another reason I questioned whether it was an actual prototype.
    I kind of doubt that Guild would have sold an "actual" prototype through a dealer where a warranty would normally be "part of the deal."
    Why would you warrant an actual prototype, given it was never intended to meet actual production specs unless it was a "first article"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by adorshki View Post
    Another reason I questioned whether it was an actual prototype.
    Well, I also have the opposite example. My 12 string Orpheum which I bought from a normal Guild dealer after NAMM is the "prototype" of the few of them but not marked as such. It got a regular serial number. It was the first 12 string Orpheum designed (as verified by Guild at that time) and as it turned out great they didn't waste an extra prototype but showed it at NAMM 2014 as new model and sold it after Musikmesse in Frankfurt in April 2014. That Orpheum is as such "the prototype" of a new model as several were produced afterwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibble View Post
    ...I was offered $10k for it back in ‘91-2.
    You missed a once in a liftime chance...

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    Last edited by cutrofiano; 07-14-2019 at 10:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutrofiano View Post
    Here it is, being examinized by endoscope:



    Does anyone note somnething unusual (on top side) ?

    Moritz
    Interesting I have that same type of tailpiece vibrato arm on a Hoefner Verithin of about the same vintage that I bought as parts in the late 70s and had my dad restore it according to my specs. Of course I removed the Framus label. Was offered 2K DM for it in the mid 80s. I still have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlin6666 View Post
    Interesting I have that same type of tailpiece vibrato arm on a Hoefner Verithin of about the same vintage...
    Sorry, merlin6666: Deleted my post, as it had nothing to do with Guild...
    Last edited by cutrofiano; 07-15-2019 at 04:35 AM.

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