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    GF-50 12 string

    Just took in in trade a '87 GF-50 12 string. Haven't owned a Guild 12 in 20 years.
    Action is very low and the guitar is amazingly playable. The saddle however is very low.
    Not a problem unless the geometry of the top changes. Hope not!
    Came tuned up to standard and I'm wondering if this is a good idea.
    Back in the day I always tuned 12 strings down a whole step. Should I now?
    Or can these modern (yes I know, 1987 is not technically "modern") guitars handle this ?
    Thanks, Ce.

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    Senior Member davismanLV's Avatar
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    Congrats! That's kind of a rare beast isn't it? I don't remember seeing a whole lot of GF-50-12's, if I've ever seen one. Would love to see a photo. I'd say that as long as the guitar is structurally sound, tuning down can only help relieve the stress of all those strings pulling. I'd say do it. If anyone has a reason not to, then correct me. Plenty of people here tune their 12's down a half or whole step. I'd say do it. What a great guitar. One day it'll probably need a neck reset, but until that time, tune down and play on!!

    p.s. - trying to find an older GF-50 12..... no luck. Is that what the label says?
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    Congratulations, it's relatively rare to see one at all. But another GF-50-12 Bld. with GF5000033 is also for sale currently on Reverb but has very high action, so clearly seems to need a neck reset.

    Since Tom asked to see one, here's the one on Reverb currently (it is missing the heel cap):



    Ralf

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    Golly, thanks Ralf!! That's a rare beast. And two coming to light right at the same time. Ralf, reading that label it looks like it ends with Bld. For Blonde? Would that just mean non-sunburst? Kinda like NT, which seems more appropriate. Wondering is all......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameleye View Post
    Came tuned up to standard and I'm wondering if this is a good idea....
    As Tom says, you can certainly tune it down a half or whole step. Although I keep all my 12-strings tuned to standard pitch....

    Nice trade, by the way!
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    Quote Originally Posted by davismanLV View Post
    Bld. For Blonde? Would that just mean non-sunburst? Kinda like NT, which seems more appropriate. Wondering is all......
    I'm not sure why they used both Bld. (blonde) and NT in parallel in the past or if somebody had defined a difference between the two. I believe Tacoma and New Hartford was all NT, not sure about Corona.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SFIV1967 View Post
    I'm not sure why they used both Bld. (blonde) and NT in parallel in the past or if somebody had defined a difference between the two.
    They were not used in parallel; they both mean something else ( page 48 of 'The Guild Guitar Book').

    In the case of the GF-50-12Bld it is obviously a mistake; should be NT.

    Sincerely,

    Hans Moust
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    Thanks Hans! I sould have looked in the book first, will do so tonight!
    Ralf

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    Quote Originally Posted by davismanLV View Post
    Congrats! That's kind of a rare beast isn't it? I don't remember seeing a whole lot of GF-50-12's, if I've ever seen one
    Gotta admit that one caught me by surprise, too.
    If I ever saw one before I've forgotten.
    A GF50 was my beloved 16" lower bout F-body with a flat rosewood back, so I see this as the Gruhn-Walker version of the F312.
    S/N chart shows #43 as last one built in '87, and even though that period's known to be rife with errors, that one might be correct.
    Last edited by adorshki; 07-05-2019 at 07:36 PM. Reason: Corrected "a G50" to "a GF50"
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