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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    That separation you described is supposed to be "normal" for Fender Custom Shop guitars? Can that be true?

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    Not sure what it actually looks like, but I thought the vast majority of Fenders have bolt-on necks and maybe those have more of a gap than the uncommon dovetail models? Just some wild guessing here ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    That separation you described is supposed to be "normal" for Fender Custom Shop guitars? Can that be true?

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    He has 2 other dovetail neck joint Fender Custom shop acoustics from New Hartford and all three apparently showed some signs of the separation. He thought it was just a product of mating an electric guitar neck to an acoustic body but these necks were actually made for the acoustics with an electric style headstock. I knew it wasn't right as soon as I saw it and confirmation from my Luthier just verified that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txbumper57 View Post
    He has 2 other dovetail neck joint Fender Custom shop acoustics from New Hartford and all three apparently showed some signs of the separation. He thought it was just a product of mating an electric guitar neck to an acoustic body but these necks were actually made for the acoustics with an electric style headstock. I knew it wasn't right as soon as I saw it and confirmation from my Luthier just verified that.

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    That can't be right. My TPD-2 had no such thing, in fact, the craftsmanship was exemplary. If I had gotten along with the neck better, I'd still own it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txbumper57 View Post
    Some are and some aren't. There is a video somewhere here on the forum from New Hartford where a tech is starting the pore filler on the back of a D55 IIRC. The RW looks so beautiful unfinished before he puts the pore filler on and then he spreads this Mud Colored paste on the back that significantly darkens and changes the tint of the back and sides of the RW on the guitar even after they Squeegee all the excess off and sand it down for Clear.
    Sorry to hear about the problem of the guitar when it arrived. To bad. Anyway, I found what you mean and you are correct what you remembered! I never noticed that, I saw the video a few times before and always somehow thought about hog when I saw it. What is really surprising however is the color of the neck! That seems to be extremely light colored wood. Is that mahogany ??? I thought all D-55 had a mahpgany neck? I didn't remember such a D-55 with such light colored neck. But maybe they apply the same color of filler to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twocorgis View Post
    That can't be right. My TPD-2 had no such thing, in fact, the craftsmanship was exemplary. If I had gotten along with the neck better, I'd still own it.
    I'm with you Sandy. I checked out my New Hartford Custom Shop Master Designed Dread 12-String and all looks well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twocorgis View Post
    That can't be right. My TPD-2 had no such thing, in fact, the craftsmanship was exemplary. If I had gotten along with the neck better, I'd still own it.
    The TPD Series had a completely different Neck than the Kingman, Newporter, and Balboa models which all were shaped like the Fender Strat Boat Neck soft V. Completely different animals. His reasoning was that the other two he owns had the same thing on them but that just means that the other two guitars need neck resets too. I can tell you on the Kingman VRF that from the factory there was no finish along the neck to body joint at all, unlike the TPD series and Guilds from the same place that all had fully finished neck joints.

    Quote Originally Posted by merlin6666 View Post
    Not sure what it actually looks like, but I thought the vast majority of Fenders have bolt-on necks and maybe those have more of a gap than the uncommon dovetail models? Just some wild guessing here ...
    They made both Bolt on Neck Fender Acoustics (with a back plate like a Strat) and Glued Dovetail Joint Neck Fender Acoustics in the Custom Shop at New Hartford that had the Electric guitar looking headstock. Two different style depending on which model and what price range. They also made the TPD Series which had a normal Acoustic looking headstock and was also a Glued Dovetail Neck Joint.

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    It reminds me of my 68 Fender Palomino with the bolt on neck. Being a child of the 60's the head stock never bothered me all that much but I simply couldn't live with that awful pick guard so I swapped it out years ago. It's still in my parts box somewhere around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAPADON View Post
    It reminds me of my 68 Fender Palomino with the bolt on neck. Being a child of the 60's the head stock never bothered me all that much but I simply couldn't live with that awful pick guard so I swapped it out years ago. It's still in my parts box somewhere around here.

    I've got a catalog from that era or probably a couple of years later, what I noted when I first skimmed (had to be pre-'74) it was that all of those acoustics were named after southern California beaches, ah, I do believe it's this one:

    Don't recall the "Palomino", not that it matters, but I did and still do think the headstock is actually pretty cool even though I don't dig the bridges.
    Don't think I noticed 'em in that catalog, though.
    EDIT: Don't think I ever picked up on those adjustable saddles, either. Wild!
    Now suspect those may have had more to do with the poor tone reputation than anything else, but there was a time when I would have loved 'em.
    Ah now I also see they appeared to have only been used on a couple o models.
    Back to blaming Fender in general.

    Before I got my first Guild had one of these, a Fender F210, early '80's MIK solid spruce top, said "Set-up in the USA" on the box.

    Always like the peghead shape on that one.
    It was stolen which turned out to be a blessing in disguise because it led me to Guild on a buddy's advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by richardp69 View Post
    Pretty nice looking guitar with interesting appointments. I'm not in the market for something like this but would really like to hear what it sounds like. I've only ever owned 2 Fender acoustics and they were way back in the day. Both were lousy but I know they've built some decent ones in recent years. A couple members here have them I think and if memory serves me right they are happy with them.
    darn, i was thinking you would have this in your cart by now. it is an interesting D55.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westerly Wood View Post
    darn, i was thinking you would have this in your cart by now. it is an interesting D55.
    I bought it and had to send it back already Wood because it has a Neck Separation at the joint and is in need of a neck reset.


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    Corona-2003 Fleming F47-Brz RW, 2003 D55 50th Brz #10 of 50, 2003 SF-III-90
    Conn-2011 GSR D50 Coco, 2011 F212XL STD, 2013 R30S, 2013 Orph Jumbo, 2014 Orph Burst 000-12 Fret 12 String S.H. RW, 2012 F50-DTAR, 2012 F50R Burst, 2012 F50R DTAR, 2013 F512 Burst, 2014 F512-DTAR, 2014 D55-RS, 2014 GSR X500D

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