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    12 srring w/ 2 inch nut width

    anyone here have/play a 12 string w/a 2” nut? how different does it feel from 1+13/16” or 1+13.5/16”?
    Last edited by mavuser; 06-13-2019 at 02:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mavuser View Post
    anyone here have/play a 12 string w/a 2 nut? how different does it feel from 13/16 or 13.5/16?
    Man, that's a wide nut. I was surprised at just 1/16" difference between 1-3/4" and 1-11/16" (on a 6-string). I bet an 1/8" difference feels plenty different.
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    The closest I have seen is a Seagull with a 1.9 but there are probably some custom made ones...

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    I have a 1965 F-312 w 2 nut. its unplayable pre repairs and so I do not know what to expect from it, and feeling somewhat intimidated. This will be an amazing project, but quite an effort for a guitar I may not enjoy playing all that much. it requires a Jacobs repair job, and must be driven to and from Florida, as I absolutely refuse to ship this guitar under any circumstances

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    Quote Originally Posted by mavuser View Post
    I have a 1965 F-312 w 2 nut. its unplayable pre repairs and so I do not know what to expect from it, and feeling somewhat intimidated. This will be an amazing project, but quite an effort for a guitar I may not enjoy playing all that much. it requires a Jacobs repair job, and must be driven to and from Florida, as I absolutely refuse to ship this guitar under any circumstances
    Wow Eric!!! Driving it to Tom in Florida, that's pretty amazing. I wish we lived closer together. I also have a 1965 F-312 that is an absolute train wreck. It likely won't be worth it financially, but I'm sending that one to Tom as well to see what he can do with it. I'm just a sucker for homeless dogs and cats and for abused Guilds. He'll likely get my '64 D 50 that's currently at another guys place with the neck, bridge, tuning machines etc. off. But, it looks like he may not have the time to get to that one and if so, off to Tom's it goes as well. Lastly, I have a really superb Jim Triggs Jumbo in Braz. RW that needs a neck reset so it will be finding its way there as well. Hmmmmm, hope I sell some gear soon.
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    A two-inch nut is close to classical width, but with a radiused fingerboard it is a bit easier to navigate for those of us with bad left-hand habits such as thumb-over chord grips. I have guitars with a range of neck widths (1-5/8, 1-3/4, 1-7/8, 2-1/8) and shapes, and changing any of the three main parts of the formula (width, depth/profile, radius) can affect feel and "playability" (which is actually how a particular left hand responds to a particular neck).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell Letson View Post
    but with a radiused fingerboard it is a bit easier to navigate
    I believe a 1965 F-312 has a flat fingerboard, no radius at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SFIV1967 View Post
    I believe a 1965 F-312 has a flat fingerboard, no radius at all.
    Ralf
    correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell Letson View Post
    A two-inch nut is close to classical width, but with a radiused fingerboard it is a bit easier to navigate for those of us with bad left-hand habits such as thumb-over chord grips. I have guitars with a range of neck widths (1-5/8, 1-3/4, 1-7/8, 2-1/8) and shapes, and changing any of the three main parts of the formula (width, depth/profile, radius) can affect feel and "playability"
    Quote Originally Posted by mavuser View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SFIV1967 View Post
    I believe a 1965 F-312 has a flat fingerboard, no radius at all.
    Ralf
    correct
    And further corroboration here:

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    and
    "I discovered by myself, after using two recent (for my standards) both from early '80s;-)) Guilds' - i.e. an F-112 and an F-512 with 42 mm wideness at nut.
    Not bad guitars, BUT I always had the feeling of being imprecise in picking and fingering with my left hand... then I discovered the F-312 (1965), F-112 (1974) and F-212 (1964), ALL with that so wise 52 mm at nut.
    ... and my picking on 12 strings improved greatly."
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    Eric, FWIW, I would absolutely ship that guitar to Tom. Driving to Florida (ever again) is a total non-starter for me. I have shipped all over the world, and am confident that I would have no problem packing that guitar so that it will make it to FL unscathed. If you need help, and I would be happy to, you know where to find me.
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