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    Question for a potential/likely new Guild Owner

    Greetings, I don't know much about Guilds but I've run across a used JF 30, that Guild said was made in 1991 at the Westerly Factory. It's gorgeous, no dents or damage and sounds fantastic. I just wondered if anyone could tell me more about the guitar and what these Westerlys were like. I understand there was some difference in where they were made.

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    Welcome to LTG! Have a first look here: http://westerlyguildguitars.com/guitars/jf30.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Dreedle View Post
    Greetings, I don't know much about Guilds but I've run across a used JF 30, that Guild said was made in 1991 at the Westerly Factory. It's gorgeous, no dents or damage and sounds fantastic. I just wondered if anyone could tell me more about the guitar and what these Westerlys were like. I understand there was some difference in where they were made.
    Welcome to LTG! Stick around, it's a fun place.

    There are some generalizations about Guilds built in each of the locations (heavy builds, light builds, etc.), but I think there is far less variability in their US-made product over the years that some other manufacturers. What variability exists is more between individual instruments.

    For we hoarders of Guilds that means there really is no "stay away from that year..." or "stay away from that factory..." when looking for instruments.

    That said, specs for any one instrument model number do change over the years: A Westerly DV6 is different than a Tacoma DV6.
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    Welcome to LTG.

    Guild production has moved around quite a bit over the years. The word "Westerly" refers to the factory at Westerly, RI, where Guilds were built from about 1968 thru 2001. That was the longest run than at any other site. There is also a "Westerly Collection" series of guitars, which is a current line of imported guitars based loosely on designs from the Westerly era.

    Unlike other US-built guitars , the Westerly, RI Guilds tended to be of consistently good quality throughout the period. If anything, they are sometimes faulted for being of heavier build, compared to Martins & Gibsons of the same period. People who appreciate Guilds do not hold this to be a fault, and when talking about 12-string guitars this is often considered to be a positive attribute.

    Guilds are often noted as being the "best buy" for vintage US-made guitars. Generally speaking, they are readily available on the used market, and are more affordable than similar guitars from other US manufacturers of the same period.
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    The JF-30 is a great guitar, no surprise you love the sound.

    I have the 12 string version and it is fabulous.

    Build quality is superb, no fancy appointments, just a darn good, no great, guitar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Dreedle View Post
    Greetings, I don't know much about Guilds but I've run across a used JF 30, that Guild said was made in 1991 at the Westerly Factory. It's gorgeous, no dents or damage and sounds fantastic. I just wondered if anyone could tell me more about the guitar and what these Westerlys were like. I understand there was some difference in where they were made.
    Quote Originally Posted by gjmalcyon View Post
    ....What variability exists is more between individual instruments.
    Quote Originally Posted by dapmdave View Post
    ....Unlike other US-built guitars , the Westerly, RI Guilds tended to be of consistently good quality throughout the period. If anything, they are sometimes faulted for being of heavier build, compared to Martins & Gibsons of the same period. People who appreciate Guilds do not hold this to be a fault, and when talking about 12-string guitars this is often considered to be a positive attribute.....
    Welcome Dreedle! The above excellent responses are what I would have said.... if I had the where-with-all. Sounds like you've located a great JF-30 and you ought to snap it up. These are JUMBOS, baby! with 17" lower bouts, comparable to Gibson's SJ-100/200, with better consistency, but at a fraction of the cost. As my sig shows, I've got two JF30-12s and a jumbo F-50R, all out of different Guild plants, and they are all stellar guitars. I'd say grab that JF-30 before somebody else does!
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    This is my first post and I'm happy to reply about the JF30 since I have a 1993 version from Westerly that I purchased used six years ago.
    It's a wonderful guitar that puts out a big, sweet sound. It's a true jumbo and it's heavy but that doesn't bother me, I'm 6'-3". The larger body with the arched, laminate maple back are the obvious weight factors. The biggest adjustment for me was the 5" depth when I played standing up with a strap but I've adapted. Plenty of folks smaller than me can manage jumbos: Emmy Lou Harris, Mary Chapin Carpenter and Little Jimmy Dickens! I strum, flatpick and fingerpick and the JF30 answers heartily in all styles. The large soundboard does need some energy to get it going. For decades I fingerpicked my other guitars with just the flesh of my fingers and I couldn't get the volume I wanted out of the JF30 bass strings. I tried a thumbpick and bingo, I get a nice, fat thump, thump with Travis style playing. Strumming and flatpicking sounds awesome.
    There are others here who know much more about the guitars built outside of Westerly. One difference I have seen is that at sometime, somewhere since Westerly they started using mahogany necks on the JF30. The Westerly builds have the 3-piece maple neck and I don't know the difference sonically, but I love the aesthetics of the maple necks.
    Mine has some honest mojo from the years but no cracks or major damage. If the one you're looking at is clean, with a good neck angle, good frets and such and at a good price I say you can't go wrong.

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    Thank you all, I'm going to get it this morning I think, but because it's used and the law in this state they won't be able to release it to me until next week!!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Dreedle View Post
    Thank you all, I'm going to get it this morning I think, but because it's used and the law in this state they won't be able to release it to me until next week!!?
    Laws regarding how long used items must be held (before resale) do vary from state to state & sometimes city to city.

    Put your money down now & get it locked in. A good JF-30 represents a tremendous value, imho. Mine is a 1994 Westerly, and it's tone is nothing short of stunningly rich & full. And fwiw, Guild's supply of wood in the '90s included some truly beautiful flamed maple, which often seemed to make it's way onto JF-30s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobouz View Post
    Laws regarding how long used items must be held (before resale) do vary from state to state & sometimes city to city.
    And I've never seen any that applied to retail locations besides pawn shops. Most places I see used items (that aren't pawn shops) are either thrift shops where they have been donated or consignment shops. Both are not the best places to fence stolen goods :-)
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