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    Senior Member SFIV1967's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by parker_knoll View Post
    Okay everyone, let's all relax
    Ah! The TRC looks happy now!

    Oh, and the new tuners look good as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by parker_knoll View Post
    It was like that when I bought it, I SWEAR!
    I believe you.
    I swear to the one true guitar god it's so common these days I think people turn 'em upside down thinking they're wrong when they see 'em right side up!
    Maybe they check internet images and see a majority of 'em upside down and figure that's the norm?
    Yeesh.
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    Biggest problem that I have with Rotomatics is that they are HEAVY. I have a Mossman 12 string that has 12 rotomatics. That is one really neck heavy guitar. I largely eliminated the problem by purchasing new tuner buttons in ebony that really reduced the weight. Made it much more playable.
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    AAaahhhh - soooo much better now . thx!
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    IMO Gotoh makes better "Grovers" than whoever owns that brand. Same with "Kluson Deluxes." The ones I like best are stock on my Ibanez AR-300: Rotomatic in appearance but vintage Sta-Tite in behavior, with center holes & a slot on top as well as the usual side holes. I string the guitar Fender style.

    Wonder if these SX-510s will retrofit the Sta-Tite-alikes on my NS Aristocrat?

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    Those will eventually leave footprints in the finish.

    If you want nicer Rotomatic replacements, why not these Gotohs?:

    https://g-gotoh.com/international/product/sgv510z.html

    Available with all sorts of optional features like adjustable string post height, button shapes, finishes, etc and would be a true drop-in replacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kakerlak View Post
    Those will eventually leave footprints in the finish.

    If you want nicer Rotomatic replacements, why not these Gotohs?:

    https://g-gotoh.com/international/product/sgv510z.html

    Available with all sorts of optional features like adjustable string post height, button shapes, finishes, etc and would be a true drop-in replacement.
    Because I don't like those. I specifically wanted a vintage look

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    I know you wanted a different look, but if anyone is unhappy with their Grovers, they do come with a lifetime warranty. Contact the company and they will give you a return number and repair or replace (at their discretion) any defective tuners. Just throwing that out there.......
    Last edited by davismanLV; 03-11-2019 at 09:39 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parker_knoll View Post
    Because I don't like those. I specifically wanted a vintage look
    FYI - Grover is now making a milk-bottle Rotomatic that pretty closely matches their '50s originals. I will admit that new Grovers, while "good enough" are not usually quite as slick as Sperzels and Gotohs and I've felt more worn out Rotomatics than any other sealed mechanism tuner. I assume the milk bottle Rotos have the same internal mechanisms as the regular ones.

    [EDIT] and while I'm complaining about rotos, as Don said, they're heavy! I swapped my wife's SG back to Klusons (already had the original screwholes) from modern Rotomatics to shave some weight and b/c the Grovers were completely worn out.
    Last edited by kakerlak; 03-11-2019 at 09:54 PM.

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