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    Guild model "designations" - how many on your guitar?

    Just a random thought.

    I'm using "designations" for the initials Guild has after certain models. What's the most "designations" Guild ever had on a Guitar model? What made me wonder is Acornhouse's post about the D25e at GC, bought by drc, where there was a discussion about what the "e" meant:

    http://letstalkguild.com/ltg/showthr...98271-D25e-299


    My '11 F-30RCE has 3 designations. R - Indian rosewood, C - cutaway, E - electronics. There has to be guitar models with more - let's hear 'em!

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    Not sure this counts but my F 47 (bought from Ray) is F 47 GSR KC=Guild Special Run-Koa-Cutaway
    '75 D 40 C
    '18 D 40T Custom
    '14 D 55
    '98 D 60
    '64 D 50 Braz. RW
    '86 D 66
    '81 D 70
    '94 DV 72
    '94 DV 73
    '00 F30R
    '10 F 40 GSR Cocobolo
    '12 F 47 GSR KC
    '08 F 50R
    '09 F 50
    '74 D 55-12
    '07 F 412 X 2
    '74 F 512
    '72 F-612
    '83 G 45
    '87 GF 50R
    '95 JF 100 NAT CRV
    '14 000 Orpheum 12 fret
    '13&'14 Orpheum Jumbo
    '97 45th Anniv. #45
    '03 D 55 50th Anniv. #23
    '13 F 30 60th Anniv. #17
    '64 S 50
    '57 X 175
    '70's M 75 CS
    '69 Studio 402
    '98 SF 2
    '81 SF 4
    '67 SF 5
    '67 SF 12
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    Oh, that counts! 5 designations!

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    Not sure I understand the question. For example a B4CE is a Bass, Cutaway, Electronics. So two, maybe three designations (because there was a F4CE guitar). But every "B4" made had a cutaway and electronics so does it have zero? If the label says "B4CE BLK" we add one for the color designation. What about the labels that have an error, in the sense that some internal identifier got used instead of the catalog identifier? What about instruments that had no label but did have a catalog designation?

    You have (in a good way because I am enjoying this) punched two of my buttons. I am a reformed software configuration manager so I am very concerned with assigning useful and unique identifiers to things. I also like to know why questions are being asked because that knowledge helps me provide a more useful answer or suggests different question.

    Maybe we should look for the greatest number of characters in the model line on any style lable that has a "model" line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fronobulax View Post
    Maybe we should look for the greatest number of characters in the model line on any style lable that has a "model" line?
    If you want to do this right then you should only count the ones or groups that would have a meaning by themselves:

    To make this clear:

    NT means 'Natural Top'; that's just 1 designation, not 2.

    CH SB means Cherry Sunburst; that would be 2.

    GSR is 'Guild Special Run'; that would be 1 as well. So F 47 GSR KC would be 3.

    Etc. etc.

    But hey, your logic is as good as mine!

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    The Orpheums had a lot handwritten on their labels. Just two examples: "12 Fr. S.H. 12 RW", "000 SH RW 12".
    Other examples: "F-47CE HR", F-47MCE". Anyway, on normal models it seems to be 3 as maximum like in RCE or MCE or "F-47CE HR".
    On Orpheums one can argue what is right. "12 Fr. S.H. 12 RW" and "000 SH RW 12" are basically 4 designations. That's probably it, I don't think we find one with 5.
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    I was not counting the model number. And then I was counting "letters" - apparently different from "designations" according to Hans, which makes sense given his examples.

    So using the "Hans method" my F-30 RCE still works as "3" because each letter is a different meaning. I think...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFIV1967 View Post
    The Orpheums had a lot handwritten on their labels. Just two examples: "12 Fr. S.H. 12 RW", "000 SH RW 12".
    Other examples: "F-47CE HR", F-47MCE". Anyway, on normal models it seems to be 3 as maximum like in RCE or MCE or "F-47CE HR".
    On Orpheums one can argue what is right. "12 Fr. S.H. 12 RW" and "000 SH RW 12" are basically 4 designations. That's probably it, I don't think we find one with 5.
    Ralf
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    Edit:
    When I first saw the thread title I thought it was going to ask:
    "How many different model numbers has your guitar's basic construction formula been known as?"
    And then there's the corollary:
    "How many different construction formulae has Guild used for a given model number?"

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