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    2000 Westerly Buesbird AAA - weight relieved?

    Pardon me if this has been discussed before but I'm curious to know if the 2000 era Westerly-made Bluesbird AAAs were made of an extra light mahogany or if they were weight-relieved in some way (Gibson style swiss-cheese holes under top?) if anyone knows. Seems this toneful guitar is a tad lighter than it should be at around 8.5 lbs -- not a bad thing! Thanks in advance.
    '73 S-90 // '80 Mark III // '00 Bluesbird AAA // '01 Starfire III // '01 JF-30 12//'16 M20

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    They're completely hollow inside! Take off the control cavity cover and you can see for yourself.
    '60s: [ SF3 ]
    '70s: [ S70 | 2x S300AD ]
    '80s: [ X79-3 | 2x X80 | X82 | X100 | S270 | S281 | BHM1 ]
    '80s: [ S300AD | Detonator | Liberator Elite | SF4 | D46 | AA ]
    '90s: [ 2x S100 | X170 | X170T | SF3,4,5 | BB | NB | NB DX ]
    '90s: [ X2000 | X3000 | DV72 | BHM1 ]
    '00s: [ SF3 | SF4 | BB-90 | X160R ]
    '10s:
    [ 2xTB | SF3 ]

    My Reviews: GADsGuilds.com

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    Really? It's nice & light but I wouldn't exactly consider it a hollowbody... semi-hollow maybe?
    '73 S-90 // '80 Mark III // '00 Bluesbird AAA // '01 Starfire III // '01 JF-30 12//'16 M20

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    Quote Originally Posted by archiestone View Post
    Really? It's nice & light but I wouldn't exactly consider it a hollowbody... semi-hollow maybe?
    There is a chunk in the middle to support the pickups and such, but the surrounding area is hollow. I suspect "chambered" is a better word, though it's one big wrap-around chamber.
    '60s: [ SF3 ]
    '70s: [ S70 | 2x S300AD ]
    '80s: [ X79-3 | 2x X80 | X82 | X100 | S270 | S281 | BHM1 ]
    '80s: [ S300AD | Detonator | Liberator Elite | SF4 | D46 | AA ]
    '90s: [ 2x S100 | X170 | X170T | SF3,4,5 | BB | NB | NB DX ]
    '90s: [ X2000 | X3000 | DV72 | BHM1 ]
    '00s: [ SF3 | SF4 | BB-90 | X160R ]
    '10s:
    [ 2xTB | SF3 ]

    My Reviews: GADsGuilds.com

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    I have pics somewhere but I'm heading out. I'm sure someone will oblige shortly.
    '60s: [ SF3 ]
    '70s: [ S70 | 2x S300AD ]
    '80s: [ X79-3 | 2x X80 | X82 | X100 | S270 | S281 | BHM1 ]
    '80s: [ S300AD | Detonator | Liberator Elite | SF4 | D46 | AA ]
    '90s: [ 2x S100 | X170 | X170T | SF3,4,5 | BB | NB | NB DX ]
    '90s: [ X2000 | X3000 | DV72 | BHM1 ]
    '00s: [ SF3 | SF4 | BB-90 | X160R ]
    '10s:
    [ 2xTB | SF3 ]

    My Reviews: GADsGuilds.com

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    Here is an x-ray of a Guild Blues-90 from around 2000 or so (if memory serves)

    '60s: [ SF3 ]
    '70s: [ S70 | 2x S300AD ]
    '80s: [ X79-3 | 2x X80 | X82 | X100 | S270 | S281 | BHM1 ]
    '80s: [ S300AD | Detonator | Liberator Elite | SF4 | D46 | AA ]
    '90s: [ 2x S100 | X170 | X170T | SF3,4,5 | BB | NB | NB DX ]
    '90s: [ X2000 | X3000 | DV72 | BHM1 ]
    '00s: [ SF3 | SF4 | BB-90 | X160R ]
    '10s:
    [ 2xTB | SF3 ]

    My Reviews: GADsGuilds.com

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    Pic of the control cavity in my Westerly Bluesbird:

    '60s: [ SF3 ]
    '70s: [ S70 | 2x S300AD ]
    '80s: [ X79-3 | 2x X80 | X82 | X100 | S270 | S281 | BHM1 ]
    '80s: [ S300AD | Detonator | Liberator Elite | SF4 | D46 | AA ]
    '90s: [ 2x S100 | X170 | X170T | SF3,4,5 | BB | NB | NB DX ]
    '90s: [ X2000 | X3000 | DV72 | BHM1 ]
    '00s: [ SF3 | SF4 | BB-90 | X160R ]
    '10s:
    [ 2xTB | SF3 ]

    My Reviews: GADsGuilds.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAD View Post
    Here is an x-ray of a Guild Blues-90 from around 2000 or so (if memory serves)

    Thank you for finding that image. It was originally posted by K.O.M.A. and is actually a Corona made Bluesbird P-90, evidently sold to JHJ, and then up for sale again in 2014. I don't know if there's a difference in chambering between the Corona and Westerly made Bluesbirds, but I think it's safe to say they're similar.

    archiestone, the cavities you see in the image are all in the mahogany back. The carved maple top is solid. I believe that the small cavity under the bridge goes back to the Nightbird and George Gruhn's insistence that the guitar be hollow under the bridge. It's really not much of a cavity, but technically it meets George's demand.
    Last edited by DThomasC; 01-05-2019 at 10:22 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GAD View Post
    Here is an x-ray of a Guild Blues-90 from around 2000 or so (if memory serves)

    That's actually a Corona version, so after 2001. (DTC beat me with that info)
    In the Corona catalog it was called "Semi-Hollowbody" with a "chambered" body.

    And yes, Westerly Bluesbirds looked a bit different inside. You can see it easily on the changed shape of the potentiometer cavity, Westerly versions have a rectangle lid versus a parallelogram shaped lid on Corona versions.

    Ralf
    Last edited by SFIV1967; 01-05-2019 at 10:43 PM.

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    Great info, thank guys!
    '73 S-90 // '80 Mark III // '00 Bluesbird AAA // '01 Starfire III // '01 JF-30 12//'16 M20

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