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    Senior Member Walter Broes's Avatar
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    yes, laminated b/s

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazmo View Post
    For the record, that DS-240 has back bracing. I think that implies that it's NOT an arched back. Am I wrong?
    Correct, both P-240 and DS-240 are flatbacks with back bracing, but laminated hog back and sides with solid spruce top. Now why they got 2xx model numbers when 2xx originally was for arched backs, no idea. Maybe they have "upgraded" the system to just say 1xx=all solid wood and 2xx= laminated back and sides... Now the other question would be why they have not used solid mahogany for the two models as they did with the 1xx series. Probably again a marketing requirement for lower price to match competition for the two models.
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    What I also noticed is that all Westerly Collection models with the exception of the 150 (Rosewood) series now changed the specs from Rosewood to Pao Ferro for the fingerboard and bridge due to CITES regulations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SFIV1967 View Post
    Correct, both P-240 and DS-240 are flatbacks with back bracing, but laminated hog back and sides with solid spruce top. Now why they got 2xx model numbers when 2xx originally was for arched backs, no idea. Maybe they have "upgraded" the system to just say 1xx=all solid wood and 2xx= laminated back and sides...

    Since Guild's arched backs were traditionally laminated anyway, it is a "logical evolution" of the model number system.
    Apparently whoever set up the system never envisioned laminated flatbacks being used, though.
    Quote Originally Posted by SFIV1967 View Post
    Now the other question would be why they have not used solid mahogany for the two models as they did with the 1xx series. Probably again a marketing requirement for lower price to match competition for the two models.
    Ralf
    That's my guess, although it does also allow 'em to use "unusual" tonewoods like the ebony that may be quite difficult to work otherwise.


    Quote Originally Posted by SFIV1967 View Post
    What I also noticed is that all Westerly Collection models with the exception of the 150 (Rosewood) series now changed the specs from Rosewood to Pao Ferro for the fingerboard and bridge due to CITES regulations.
    Ralf
    It's true Pau Ferro's not CITES listed, but it's actually got a history of usage by Guild going back to the '90's D4's, see the spec here from Westerlyguildguitars (they used the "Morado" name for it, see the "Wood Database"):
    http://www.westerlyguildguitars.com/guitars/d4hr.html
    Pau Ferro may actually be better suited to fretboard use than traditional rosewoods since it's supposed to be a little harder.
    Would cut down on divots if nothing else!
    Had an offline discussion with another member who mentioned one of his Corona D-25's fretboards was lighter than he expected of traditional EIR so I suspected they used it there, too.
    I even wonder about my own D25's fretboard, now, since it's also a bit lighter than the bridge.
    EDIT: Acornhouse's post made me realize I should clarify: by "lighter" I mean color-wise, in case there's any question.
    Last edited by adorshki; 01-16-2019 at 08:43 PM.
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    Pau Ferro/Morado/Bolivian RW, it goes by many names (NOT a true rosewood, btw.) Its excellent for fingerboards, since it is hard and HEAVY. A little less good for a bridge since, as I've mentioned, its HEAVY, and a heavier bridge will require more force to move. (That's why Braz. RW is better than ebony, its much lighter/less dense.) Not a big a deal on a steel string vs., say, a classical, but I wouldn't want it for a fingerstyle guitar.
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    Thank you, Ralf, for hooking us all up with the NAMM details. This (current) thread was quite accurate in predictions (thanks to Ralf and others). Anyway, here are the links:

    http://www.letstalkguild.com/ltg/sho...-412-and-F-50)

    http://www.letstalkguild.com/ltg/sho...e-Exotic-Woods

    http://www.letstalkguild.com/ltg/sho...rly-Collection

    http://www.letstalkguild.com/ltg/sho...o-sized-guitar
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    I'll echo sentiment of others who were hoping to see US-made F30 1-3/4 nut and F112 size offerings, especially given the popularity of OM/OOO size guitars these days. I think its a glaring hole in their US line-up, but hey I understand that jumbos are Guild's sweet spot and I get their desire to bring out more large frame variations first. I just hope they continue to thrive and make great guitars.
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    Guild has a gaping hole in their lineup when it comes to smaller bodied guitars and also anything short scale. A nice little concert sized , 1 3/4" nut, and short scaled guitar in a couple of different woods. Maybe even a 12 fretter. And a cutaway! Things to wait for, I guess!!
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