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    Noob sorely tempted by D40E

    Hi all:

    First post, so greetings!

    I am a decent hobby level guitar player. I've been at it for 30 years but still mediocre on a good day. I've owned electrics (Les Paul, Telecaster, Stratocaster) and acoustics ($300 cheapies). I love all kinds of music but my current deal is mostly-rhythm guitar in a classic country band. Santa is going to be good to me this year and provide with my first "good" acoustic guitar.

    Unless somebody talks me out of it, I'm planning to order a new D40E on-line. I like the antique burst finish. I have never laid hands on one as nobody has one locally, but I've played other Guild models over the years. My ex wife had a Guild jumbo years ago and while I would like to forget her, that guitar was AMAZING, so I have been a a Guild fan for a long time.

    Can't say why EXACTLY, but the D40E really appeals to me and is in my price range (albeit the top of my price range).

    I know many would never buy a guitar un-tried, but to me shopping at a store is frustrating. A $300 guitar with fresh strings will sound as good to my untrained ears as a much more expensive guitar that needs strings. I figure I'll just buy an acknowleged "good" guitar a learn to love it... cause I sure as hell won't be buying another for a while.

    Any thoughts / guidance appreciated!

    Thanks!

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    Welcome. No specific advice beyond making sure you understand the return policy, in case you never bond with it. That said, most of the players I know have loved their first "good" guitar.

    In keeping with the stereotype of a country song, I can sense an idea "I don't miss my jumbo wife but I sure do miss her jumbo Guild".
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    Quote Originally Posted by pancho400cid View Post
    First post, so greetings!
    Welcome to the boards, Pancho!

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    Unless somebody talks me out of it, I'm planning to order a new D40E on-line.
    We're enablers here. We talk people into buying Guild guitars.

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    I like the antique burst finish.
    I love a good burst. But you understand the D40E has a satin finish, not gloss. This is just a cosmetic thing. I used to have several $400-600 Epiphone Masterbilts. They all had satin finish. They're very good, all-solid wood guitars. But I've moved on. More expensive guitars do have better tone, and I prefer a gloss finish. I'm a sucker for good looks. To many, it's all about the tone - a vintage guitar can be chipped and scratched, but if it's got that good balanced sound, they don't care about the looks. Anyway, just do your research and know what you're getting.

    Quote Originally Posted by pancho400cid View Post
    I know many would never buy a guitar un-tried....
    At least 90% of my guitars were bought off the internet, un-tried. And used. I've always heard "play before you pay," but I've mostly "paid before played." This is fairly common in this day and age. It certainly shouldn't be a problem buying a new guitar, especially from a place with a reasonable return policy, which you probably won't need to use. That D40E looks like a great guitar. Go for it!
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    Welcome aboard. My experiences shopping at a music store have been quite different than yours. With one exception, I've bought all my new guitars over the years from stores precisely because I've played them in the store and they've stood out. It's the ones that blow my hair back (well, when I had hair) that have always made the cash flow out of my pocket for a new guitar. In a few cases, trying a new guitar at a shop has sent me on a hunt for a used one of the same type.

    Anyway, these days I see nothing inherently problematical about shopping online for a new guitar. Just be careful about shipping concerns, particularly unpacking a guitar that has been shipped in winter through cold regions...
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    Welcome Pancho! Good point about the satin finish, if you're ok with that you should be good to go!
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    Hey all:

    Thanks for the input. Clearly I have found a supportive (aka "enabling") community LOL.

    I'm aware the D40E is satin finish. I prefer the gloss lacquer finish as on the "D40 Traditional" but the Traditional is not available with a factory-installed pick-up.
    The D40 Traditional has different binding, nicer headstock, metal tuner knobs (plastic on D40E), double-acting truss-rod (single-acting on D40E), no pick-up (LR Baggs Element on D40E) and gloss nitrocellulose finish (satin varnish on d40E). The d40 Traditional costs $2,500 vs. $1,900 for the D40E.

    I came withing a hair's breadth of buying one last night only to find they are now out of stock ( ) at the place I was considering (Sweetwater). Looking around now for another source, and gave a local store a chance to get one for me if possible.

    "I don't miss my jumbo wife but I sure do miss her jumbo Guild"
    That's hilarious.... definitely a great country song in the making.... right up there with "I thought I told you to stay in the truck" and "I'da Wrote You a Letter But I Couldn't Spell PPpppffFFttt".

    On a side note I played a country record backwards last night but instead of getting hidden subliminal messages, I sobered up, my wife came back to me and my dog came back to life!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cougar View Post
    Welcome to the boards, Pancho!
    "What he said"

    Oh yeah, btw, your first few posts will be vetted by mods but since a couple of 'em have already chimed in I suspect you'll get "fast tracked".
    So not to worry if your reply posts aren't popping up in real time, "yet".


    Quote Originally Posted by Cougar View Post
    I love a good burst. But you understand the D40E has a satin finish, not gloss.
    I'm going to assume that both you and our new Pontiac-loving member are using the Cordoba "D40E" model name correctly, but just in case (and for those who may have forgotten), there is also a "D40 Traditional" which has a gloss NCL finish standard, and also offers a Sunburst and "e" version:
    https://guildguitars.com/g/d-40-trad...ique-sunburst/
    For the price upgrade in that package, you also get a 3-piece neck (resists twisting), a chesterfield headstock, a dual-action truss rod, and a genuine dovetail neck joint.
    There are those of us who do believe a dovetail neck joint is sonically superior, before we even get into the desirable aspects of a genuine NCL finish.
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    Right, Al. The D-40E is not the Traditional model and has some significant differences, as noted. It has (I think) a mortise and tenon neck and has the varnish, satin finish. The "E" version has LR Baggs Element electronics.

    Also, good point about the 3piece neck on the Traditional only.
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    Going from a cheapie to a D 40 is going to be a huge improvement. Finding the best guitar ever is a lifetime search.

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    Well... The deed is done. I asked a local store about the D40E with burst finish. He said they were out of stock, which I believe. As I said above, Sweetwater was out of stock on D40E's too. There were some to be found online, but in the end I opted to order a "D40 Traditional" through the local shop. His price was the same as the online guys and he is knowlegeable and local. It's more guitar than I need, but I went ahead and bought it. For the first time in quite a while, I can't wait for Christmas!

    Guess my next post will be a "what pick-up for my new D40 Traditional"

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