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    Quote Originally Posted by chazmo View Post
    Whether that effect is noticeable, or even "good" or "bad" is, of course, in the ears of the listener. :)
    I think that's a really important point. Even if the tone is adjusted, you might not like the result. But someone else might.

    That's why some people love the Taylor sound and some love the Martin sound. So much of it is what you expect to hear when you play. I've read where people said they thought an Olson sounded too chime-y. Go figure...

    I wonder if some violinists hate the sound of a Stradivarius?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AcornHouse View Post
    And, Of course, guitars painted white sound better. Right Billy Corgan?
    Yeah, I saw that interview! He even said he can tell the difference between white paint and blue paint!
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    Interesting bridge pin thread from last year here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PittPastor View Post
    I think that's a really important point. Even if the tone is adjusted, you might not like the result. But someone else might.

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    I wonder if some violinists hate the sound of a Stradivarius?
    I know a few classical soloists who play cello who enjoy other luthiers' products more than the Cremona Stradivari products. In the violin/viola world, I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone say that. I've never heard anyone trash talk a Stradivarius of any type though. Maybe in 300 years, they'll be idolizing 20th century Guilds. Who knows. :) More likely, they'll just be arguing over depleted uranium vs. unobtanium string tone. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AcornHouse View Post
    . . . the vibrations are focused at the saddle . . . .
    Aha! Now I get it!

    Glad you said that. It turned on the bright lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PittPastor View Post
    I think that's a really important point. Even if the tone is adjusted, you might not like the result. But someone else might. . . .
    Exactly! That's why I'm wondering not just whether but how those changes affect the sound.

    For instance, my guit whisperer said scalloping the braces would give me more bottom, and I don't want more bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    Okay, I've nixed the tuner idea. I'll get a bone saddle and maybe a nut, too. Uh, probably a nut, too.

    Thanks for the suggestions, gang!
    The nut enhances sustain on unfretted strings, so if you play a lot of those, like open chords up and down the neck, (I do); it's worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chazmo View Post
    But, keep in mind that the pins themselves do make direct contact with the string ends and the bridge/bridge-plate/soundboard. Theoretically, the shape and materials used for everything involved in that transfer of vibration/energy could have an effect on tone. Whether that effect is noticeable, or even "good" or "bad" is, of course, in the ears of the listener. :)
    Yes.
    THAT's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adorshki View Post
    The nut enhances sustain on unfretted strings, so if you play a lot of those, like open chords up and down the neck, (I do); it's worth it.
    Aha! More good info. Yes, I pound out cowboy chords shamelessly - one reason I like Guilds so much.

    Thanks, that helps. I'll probably get a bone nut.

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    Well no one cited the basic physics I was hoping for, or threw out a relevant equation or two but the general idea that the pins effect the mass of the bridge makes sense to me. The traditional analysis of a vibrating string assumes the end points are anchored and the only vibration occurs between the anchor points. Thus, the model does not allow for any effect from, for example, the bridge pins. I'd say in this case the model does not completely match reality.
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