A Proper Jumbo 12-String

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Counting chickens before they hatch, I just happened into (well, a tip from TX, of course) an extremely nice, practically new old stock, 2011 New Hartford Guild 17" lower bout jumbo 12-string! Solid mahogany back and sides, cutaway, with DTAR wavelength, which makes it an F-212XLCE! The soundboard looks like AAA sitka. There's not a mark on this guitar, and the silking on the top is unbelievable!

It's got a jumbo Guild 12-string sound, but it's different from my Corona-built JF30-12, which is a killer 12. I'll have to study that comparison more.

It was such a good deal, I couldn't exactly turn it down, now could I? It was up on reverb something like four months. The seller had reduced the price 18% at some point. And he had a Make Offer. :tiger: So I threw in an offer of another 20% price cut and was surprised it was quickly accepted. Pleasantly. Especially now that I've got it in my hands, and it's in essentially perfect condition! Another excellent tip, TX!

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That is just Flat out Sexy Cougar! Looks even better than it did in the ad. As an owner of one of these early F212XL's from New Hartford I have to say they are Awesome Instruments. Congrats man on another Great Guild. I have to ask though, How does the wee little Martin Hog 12 string match up to this one in tone and play ability?


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Welcome to the club and nice score . Top does look sweet .

This is a mighty fine 12 with great hog goodness awesome fundamentals.

Just to say some folks like really low action on 12’s but I feel strongly that your sacrificing tone and volume by having it to low.

I have yet to raise mine but I’m set up to it .
This is a killer guitar . 😁
 
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txbumper57 said:
Looks even better than it did in the ad.
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It really is!

txbumper57 said:
As an owner of one of these early F212XL's from New Hartford I have to say they are Awesome Instruments.
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Man, do I ever agree!

txbumper57 said:
I have to ask though, How does the wee little Martin Hog 12 string match up to this one in tone and play ability?
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I had to take that in to get it set up. Tell you right now, there's no comparison.


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This is a killer guitar . 😁
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I just dropped the low E to D and laid a pick on her unplugged. I see now that she is every bit in JF30-12's league. Yes, I've got to break out the Tascam DR-05 to show you what I'm talking about!

And that's 17-1/4" lower bout!
 
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17 1/4 cool never measured mine . I await
 
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Congrats on a spectacular NH12... the cutaway rocks... great photos too, that guitar is flat-out beautiful!
 
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Bonneville88 said:
Congrats on a spectacular NH12... the cutaway rocks... great photos too, that guitar is flat-out beautiful!
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Thanks, Bonneville. Cutaway is not really my preferred look, but it's awfully practical, and I do a modicum of fretting up the neck, especially with a capo on the 2nd or 3rd fret, so it could come in very handy!
 
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That is sweet looking all the way around.

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Nothing like any 12er made in New Hartford, Cougar!
 
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If I am not mistaken Cougar the serial number I saw on yours in the ad has it being made 3 days after mine was. Probably the reason both of ours have that Silky/bear claw Sitka Spruce top as they most likely were made from the same batch of wood.

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txbumper57 said:
If I am not mistaken Cougar the serial number I saw on yours in the ad has it being made 3 days after mine was. Probably the reason both of ours have that Silky/bear claw Sitka Spruce top as they most likely were made from the same batch of wood.

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Yeah totally jealous 😑
 
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txbumper57 said:
If I am not mistaken Cougar the serial number I saw on yours in the ad has it being made 3 days after mine was. Probably the reason both of ours have that Silky/bear claw Sitka Spruce top as they most likely were made from the same batch of wood.
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Yeah, mine is N0230005. What's all that mean? LOL! The top is definitely exceptional.
 
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txbumper57 said:
If I am not mistaken Cougar the serial number I saw on yours in the ad has it being made 3 days after mine was.
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Was your seller Matt's Music in Monroe, LA, too? Very pleased with this seller!
 
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Cougar said:
Yeah, mine is N0230005. What's all that mean? LOL! The top is definitely exceptional.
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N= New Hartford, O=2011, 023="Julian Calendar" day for that year or in this case January 23, 005=5th guitar made that day.

Mine was made on the 20th of January 2011.

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Was your seller Matt's Music in Monroe, LA, too? Very pleased with this seller!
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Nope, Mine came from a Guitar Shop in Colorado that was also straight forward and spot on with shipping, description, and great communication.

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F312 said:
That is sweet looking all the way around.
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Thanks, F312. It's a kick to play!

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Hey, 'grats, Cougar!!!!! Not a ton of those cutaways around. Great score!
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Thanks, Chazmo. There just aren't many New Hartford builds around these days for that matter! I thought Matt's would come back with a counter offer, but no, my offer was just accepted. Love when that happens!
 
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txbumper57 said:
N= New Hartford, O=2011, 023="Julian Calendar" day for that year or in this case January 23, 005=5th guitar made that day.

Mine was made on the 20th of January 2011.

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TX, I think you added a zero in there before the day, i.e., I think it was day 230, not 23... That guitar completed final assembly on 18-Aug-2011, Cougar.
 
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