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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Westerly Wood View Post
    Wow, that is huge news. Their acoustic production as well? Does this mean Bozeman is closing?
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    Not necessarily. It's no secret that Yamaha has wanted to get into the high end acoustic guitar business for some time, and this is seemingly a good fit. My guess is that they could only improve the often sub-par quality control as it stands now.
    Sandy

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  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by twocorgis View Post
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    Not necessarily. It's no secret that Yamaha has wanted to get into the high end acoustic guitar business for some time, and this is seemingly a good fit. My guess is that they could only improve the often sub-par quality control as it stands now.
    well that is great to know, and i agree. i played a few LL16s, kind of their mid level acoustics at around 500 (i mean mid level for Yamaha) and they are great guitars. great electronics too, all solid tops, just good solid guitars. built well, and i think in China.
    Wood

    1971 D25 Br--ol' Flattop
    2008 Santa Cruz D/PWM--wife's

    https://soundcloud.com/woody-adams/sets/not-metal

    "i think that you are the only one i know of that considers the 1973-1974 mahogany top/arch back D-25 a "holy grail" guitar"--mav

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Westerly Wood View Post
    well that is great to know, and i agree. i played a few LL16s, kind of their mid level acoustics at around 500 (i mean mid level for Yamaha) and they are great guitars. great electronics too, all solid tops, just good solid guitars. built well, and i think in China.
    I think Yamaha makes the best cheap instruments in general, and not just guitars either. They might be the perfect company to restore the luster of this once great brand.
    Sandy

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  4. #24
    I was just playing my Yammie FG-110 this morning between phone calls. It is the only guitar that I do not case or humidify....it is an old red label Nippon Gakki that my buddy did a hobby style neck reset on a couple years ago. It plays great....laminate back....and while not a solid high end Guild or other.....has a remarkably pleasant tone and play-ability. Everyone should have a guitar like this one....unfortunately it seems that about 99.9% of them need neck resets that cost more than the instruments themselves. I've got $100 invested in the guitar and it is worth much more if only to me.

    Among my guitar playing friends....the Yamaha brand name has a near universal level of acceptance. No small feat.
    M-20 Hoboken 1968
    D-40 Std New Hartford 2012
    Yamaha FG-110

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitarkus View Post
    I was just playing my Yammie FG-110 this morning between phone calls. It is the only guitar that I do not case or humidify....it is an old red label Nippon Gakki that my buddy did a hobby style neck reset on a couple years ago. It plays great....laminate back....and while not a solid high end Guild or other.....has a remarkably pleasant tone and play-ability. Everyone should have a guitar like this one....unfortunately it seems that about 99.9% of them need neck resets that cost more than the instruments themselves. I've got $100 invested in the guitar and it is worth much more if only to me.

    Among my guitar playing friends....the Yamaha brand name has a near universal level of acceptance. No small feat.
    yeah, I always look on CL for red label Yammies. And they usually have such high action I never purchase. Also dont like their neck profile but they do sound great.
    Wood

    1971 D25 Br--ol' Flattop
    2008 Santa Cruz D/PWM--wife's

    https://soundcloud.com/woody-adams/sets/not-metal

    "i think that you are the only one i know of that considers the 1973-1974 mahogany top/arch back D-25 a "holy grail" guitar"--mav

  6. #26
    YamaSon Guitars....that sounds about right.

    If the Japanese want to make high end guitars, they don't need to buyout an American company to do that. If they want the American brand name for the past historic status, that's OK too.

    Tommy

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by tommym View Post
    YamaSon Guitars....that sounds about right.

    If the Japanese want to make high end guitars, they don't need to buyout an American company to do that. If they want the American brand name for the past historic status, that's OK too.

    Tommy
    I don't think any brand, with the possible exception of Bose, has more leverage than Gibson, and Henry J has been milking that for years. It makes perfect sense to me for Yamaha to buy the brand, and in all likelihood improve the product immensely.
    Sandy

    '59 X175AB, '68 SFII Bass (Green), '73 D50NT, '82 Mark V, '86 Pilot 602P, '87 Pilot SB602M, '88 Pilot SB602MF
    '10 F512NT, '11 F50ce Std (Sunburst) '13 R30S (Resonator), '13 B54ce Std Bass, '13 Orpheum Jumbo Prototype

  8. #28
    In the 60s, Konrad Ragossnig, a guitarist on the level of John Williams, Bream, et al, played a Yamaha concert classical. I also played a few of their higher end classical, not the concert model, and they were uniformly excellent. BTW, Ragossnig passed away in January.
    Brad
    F212: 1964 ,AA: 1975 ,Mark V:1975 ,F50:1976, D-55,1979; X170:1986, F-40:2007, F512:2010, T-250:1986, Masterbilt:AJ500RCNS:2006, Gibson Chet Atkins CE:2001, Godin ACS:1999, Giannini 7-string classical, Epi Korean Howard Roberts Custom:1995, Pawless Mesquite Special, 2012. My trio's site: http://bradbilljanet.blogspot.com/

  9. #29
    my very first guitar was my grandmother's Yamaha classical. Yamaha is a fond memory of mine and will always be a brand I like.
    Wood

    1971 D25 Br--ol' Flattop
    2008 Santa Cruz D/PWM--wife's

    https://soundcloud.com/woody-adams/sets/not-metal

    "i think that you are the only one i know of that considers the 1973-1974 mahogany top/arch back D-25 a "holy grail" guitar"--mav

  10. #30
    If Gibson transformed themselves into something like Collings they might be able to do better at living up to their 1930s–60s legacy. OTOH we already have Collings, who are making some mighty fine "Gibsons" these days.

    I bought two wonderful 335s last year. But they were made in 1982 by Fuji-gen Gakki for Ibanez. This year I've picked up a terrific single-cut LP Special and an outstanding 330, both recently made in Austin, TX. :)

    I hope Gibson manages a soft landing rather than a cliff drop. Yamaha taking over might be a good thing. But for the brand as it has been for decades now I have no particular reverence.

    -Dave-
    Last edited by Quantum Strummer; 02-13-2018 at 08:09 PM.
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    1973 S-100 "Nature Boy"
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    c. 1971 Foxey Lady

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