Yes, thanks folks. The reason I asked is because I have 3 F30's and just love playing them. But I sometimes play well up the neck and a cutaway would facilitate a bit more comfort. Unfortunately my aging fingers have trouble on the 1 3/4 necks. It doesn't make sense that a 16th of an inch could make much difference and I actually preferred the wider necks before this arthritis became a limiting factor. And most concert size guitars have the wider neck which is why I was specifically asking about the Aragon in a cutaway. Also for whatever reason most cutaways also include onboard electronics which I don't care for. I confess to being old school and prefer playing into a Beta 57 mic.
Does anyone here know if Guild made the F-30 Aragon (1 11/16" nut) in a cutaway version?
Not interested in the Asian built models.
Here’s a ‘92 example that was sold on Reverb. I believe all of the cutaways will have onboard electronics. But, of course, just because they have them doesn’t mean you have to use them. :joyous:
https://reverb.com/item/1026927-guild-f30ce-acoustic-electric-guitar-1992-westerly
Well I'll be darned, I still keep getting surprised around here, thank you!
It's even one of the "oval soundhole" styles, with arched maple back....W-a-a-a-i-t a minute......in fact, now that I step back and look at that body outline again, I'm pretty darn sure that's actually one of the F40 derived guitars.
It looks just like a blinged-down F65ce: Chesterfield instead o G-shield, and dot inlays instead of abalone, shallow depth just wide enough to accept the Fishman controls in the side, and if you look closely it's got that 2 octave shortscale neck (double dots at 24th fret).
can tell by the 16th fret neck join it's one of the shortscale models with the 2 octave neck.
I'm positive that's one of the 16" bout models, here's a photo compare:
Post- '94 F65ce courtesy of Westerly Guild Guitars:
The F30ce:
Note the body outlines are identical, but the soundhole placement is closer to the waist in the earlier F30ce because of the shorter scale length. Bracing was accordingly different, too.
Early F65ce's ('91-'94-ish) were built the same way and also offered a maple.
Yeah I think it was either the Paul Simon Special or the F30Rls (Long Scale) from the Nashville custom shop, I forget myself, one or or both of those were F40 sized 16" lower bouts. (the Valencia mentioned above was the original name for the F40)I thought the same thing about it being a F40ish as it looked bigger then F30’s I’ve seen but I know there’s many models I have not discovered yet so I let go . Still needs a pickup lol
I just checked some other pics and that’s for sure the F30 that fat bottom got to me at the same time we just had a thread that touched on the small jumbo size f30’s of which I totally forgot about till now lol and what ? It like two weeks ago lmao who are people again ?
JF's are not to be confused with "F" 's as I tried to explain earlier.
JF30 was always a 17" lower bout jumbo, it was a blinged-down F50 (which was about to be known as the JF65, a couple of years after introduction of the JF30).
(In fact I just realized that might explain the logic behind calling the blinged-down F65ce an F30ce)
F30's only got a lower bout size bigger than 15"+/- fractions a couple of times, and they were special models, or re-named F40 derivatives like member Jahn's '93 F30R, labeled as an F30 but s/n'd as a GF50, so I'm saying the label was incorrect, a well known Guild "glitch":
http://www.letstalkguild.com/ltg/sh...ul-Simon-Model-quot&highlight=paul+simon+f30r
I know for sure they didn't make 'em in Corona, and that Tacoma introduced the 1-3/4" nut on the CO series (F30 sized with "bolt-on neck" which has a very bad rep whether deserved or not), where you could get the cutaway.
Yes, I owned a CO-1c From Tacoma. I understand that some bad ones got out there and the one I bought through ebay had a neck issue but I easily repaired it and happily found it to be a wonderful guitar. The tone from the cedar top was the best of the f-30's I have owned. I kept it for about a year past when the 1 3/4" neck became a problem for my hand because I just could not let it go. But last month my band mate ( a Gibson man) wanted a smaller guitar and offered me a good price for it so I let it go. Like myself, he fell in love with it and I have not seen him play anything else since. And it feels good to have it still in the family so to speak. Letting go of the C0-1c is what sent me on this search for a replacement with the 1 11/16" nut.
Earlier versions ('91 to 93) of those came with 24-3/4 scale and 1-11/16 nut, and Acorn house just picked up a vintage F45ce with 24-3/4 scale and 1-5/8 nut (assuming the nut spec was correct, it surprised me a little bit)
Thanks, I will look into the F-45ce. I vaguely recall playing one years ago and not enjoying the tone. If I recall correctly it had laminate back and sides. May have been a different model but it had that oval sound hole.