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Thread: 1973 Guild D55 Questions and Mysteries!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonneville88 View Post
    To my eyes, looks similar to the sides on this 1977 D55 featured on dreamguitars.com,
    described in the specs there as EIR.

    It does bear a striking resemblance to this guitar.

    Thank you to everyone for all of the info and insight. I have a much better idea of what is going on with this guitar now!

    You guys rock!
    We need to have Hans answer the mahogany sides question.
    There would be no reason for the D-55 to have mahogany sides unless someone ordered it that way.
    Is there a way to tell if this is a custom guitar?
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  2. #22
    It looks like all rosewood sides and back to me. I have seen rosewood that mimics mahogany, but the inside pics clearly look like rosewood. But then again what do I know?

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    I want to say thank you once again to everyone who shared their input, knowledge and insight. You guys really are awesome!

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    This is not the first time , ive seen stuff like this .
    My 1971 d-55 is a bit unusual -the one sides is definitely Brazilian and the other could be either EIR or Brazilian -
    the back is probably EIR on my back , but a luthier i know wouldnt make a commitment on the wood type( could be BR )
    My guitar has the tone of a BR guitar -so im happy reguardless of its heritage
    Your guitar might of went threw hell at a period in its life and had those sides changed out ( maybe not maybe parts from an old
    D-40 ? ) - who really knows unless you have more detail as to its history.
    These things have a life of their own -remember we never own our guitars, were just caretakers .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor Martin Guild View Post
    We need to have Hans answer the mahogany sides question.
    There would be no reason for the D-55 to have mahogany sides unless someone ordered it that way.
    Is there a way to tell if this is a custom guitar?
    Since a D55 was a "special order ONLY" from '68-'73, it could have been ordered with the 'hog sides but then I'd expect it to say "D55 Spec" on the label.
    I'm with the majority here, that it's EIR and it's just not showing the grain pattern we expect from a rosewood.
    Like TXbumper said, I think the slabs that they sliced the sides from were cut at an angle that happened to exaggerate the pore structure, that's why it looks so much like 'hog.
    I'm wondering if maybe it was so they could bend the sides more easily or were worried about cracking during the process.
    Maybe they had a batch of harder-to-work than anticipated EIR.
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    Has anyone contracted Hans ? 😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayk View Post
    Has anyone contracted Hans ? ��
    I think 'round here we just contract GAS.
    Al
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Burns View Post
    This is not the first time , ive seen stuff like this .
    My 1971 d-55 is a bit unusual -the one sides is definitely Brazilian and the other could be either EIR or Brazilian -
    the back is probably EIR on my back , but a luthier i know wouldnt make a commitment on the wood type( could be BR )
    I have seen this as well. I know there were several guitars that left the factory in the late 60's/early 70's with the Brazilian RW sides and East Indian RW backs. The reasoning for this from what I have heard is that they were using up the existing wood stock. Al Dronge was a stickler for not wasting anything and a more prominent example of that was using Hoboken sound hole labels on Westerly Built guitars for years until they ran out. The Brazilian RW they had left in this time period was big enough to use for the sides but not big enough to use for the backs, hence the EIR back and Brazilian RW Sides. All that being said I have seen Confirmed Brazilian RW that looks like EIR and vice versa. The only way to truly verify one way or another from this period is to take a sample for testing which in my opinion is destructive to the guitar itself. I'll bet your 71 D55 sounds like a Baby Grand Piano Tony, would love to see some pics of it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayk View Post
    Has anyone contracted Hans ? ��
    I did send him a PM asking if he could check out the thread when he has a chance.

  10. #30
    Although the sides are carrying a look similar to mahogany, I'm a firm believer in probabilities - and what is supposed to be there, is almost always what's there.

    As much as we tend to enjoy the unusual, being a D-55, it's most likely rosewood.
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