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    Quote Originally Posted by matsickma View Post
    As damage goes I don't think a loose fret board is going to drop the value of the guitar like a split neck or cracked headstock. Actually it might imply the workmanship at Guild didn't bond the fretboard correctly. Probably a good thing in hindsight to prevent a snapped neck. If the fretboard bond is redone properly and finish touched up professionally the guitar value will remain high for a select group of Nightengale enthusiast regardless of the repair. Thats how I see it.
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    I agree as it's actually the same with collector cars. I was trying to figure out how to say that myself, but the thing I was forgetting is that the guitar itself (like some cars) is only going to have that value to a narrow but knowledgable buyer niche.
    If that niche grows then it'll probably gain value too.

    "Wrecked Jaguar" or "Ultra rare low production wrecked Jaguar"?
    40 years ago that would have been a $10,000 car at best, in running condition and ready to race.
    Probably not even that because vintage racing wasn't really on the radar yet and the car wasn't even street-legal.

    At least that X-3000's streetable.
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    I can recommend a great luthier, David Petillo, in Ocean Twp. You'll never know it was cracked after David gets done with it.
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    That crack, though heartbreaking to be sure, should not be difficult to fix. Choose a luthier that is skilled in repairing lacquer and you will never be able to spot the repair. I would not recommend a violin specialist as they use a varnish finish which requires a completely different skill set.
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    Took it to the local post office because the seller insisted that I needed to do that for his insurance claim. The Postmaster (who was awesome) told me that she was supposed to confiscate the item. Thankfully she didn't. She also agreed with me that this is a packing problem and not a shipping problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GAD View Post
    Took it to the local post office because the seller insisted that I needed to do that for his insurance claim. The Postmaster (who was awesome) told me that she was supposed to confiscate the item. Thankfully she didn't. She also agreed with me that this is a packing problem and not a shipping problem.
    WTF?
    Sounds like he set you up for that.
    How would the Post Office have any "legal" reason to confiscate unless seller somehow represented to them that you had defrauded him on payment?
    Even then, why would they have any reason to act as his agent?
    Or were they supposed to confiscate because he or his insurance company were making a claim against the USPS for damage in transit and to honor it they needed to regain possession of the instrument?
    Sounds like her agreement that it was a packing problem is why she let you keep it? (IE, shipper's damage claim was going to be denied based on her assessment, thus, Post Office had no reason to seize it)
    Realizing you may not be in the mood for complicated explanations, I tried to make it easy to just say yes or no.
    And take your time.
    If that'd happened to me, I'd be somewhere relatively soundproof, venting at the top of my voice right about now.
    And consulting with Paypal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adorshki View Post
    WTF?
    Sounds like he set you up for that.
    How would the Post Office have any "legal" reason to confiscate unless seller somehow represented to them that you had defrauded him on payment?
    Even then, why would they have any reason to act as his agent?
    Or were they supposed to confiscate because he or his insurance company were making a claim against the USPS for damage in transit and to honor it they needed to regain possession of the instrument?
    Sounds like her agreement that it was a packing problem is why she let you keep it? (IE, shipper's damage claim was going to be denied based on her assessment, thus, Post Office had no reason to seize it)
    Realizing you may not be in the mood for complicated explanations, I tried to make it easy to just say yes or no.
    And take your time.
    If that'd happened to me, I'd be somewhere relatively soundproof, venting at the top of my voice right about now.
    And consulting with Paypal.
    Nah - I expected it having read up on the possible outcomes. From what I understand (which is minimal, to be honest) if the item was destroyed then USPS would take it to avoid there being a scam. I'm sure Default could correct me if he's so inclined.

    This being international, everything is more complicated. I'm giving the seller a day or two and then I'm just filing a dispute with Paypal. That may result in me having to ship it back for a full refund (at my expense - it's in the T&Cs) if he doesn't agree to my partial refund request, so we'll see what happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GAD View Post
    Nah - I expected it having read up on the possible outcomes. From what I understand (which is minimal, to be honest) if the item was destroyed then USPS would take it to avoid there being a scam.
    Ah, light goes on! Makes too much sense so must be true.

    Quote Originally Posted by GAD View Post
    This being international, everything is more complicated. I'm giving the seller a day or two and then I'm just filing a dispute with Paypal. That may result in me having to ship it back for a full refund (at my expense - it's in the T&Cs) if he doesn't agree to my partial refund request, so we'll see what happens.
    OK we're back to keeping our fingers crossed that seller will opt to retain a final sale even at less than ideal return on investment.
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    This is a common and easy repair. Take heart and enjoy this guitar when itís ready!
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