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    D4-NT pickguard

    Hi,
    First post. I have a D4-NT (1993ish) that is missing the pickguard. They list one for the D series on the Guild site, but it doesn't say if the guard has adhesive on it. If not, what is the best adhesive to use?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bossbrew1 View Post
    Hi,
    First post. I have a D4-NT (1993ish) that is missing the pickguard. They list one for the D series on the Guild site, but it doesn't say if the guard has adhesive on it. If not, what is the best adhesive to use?
    Thanks!
    HI Bossbrew welcome aboard!
    Duck tape.

    Kidding aside, I'm guessing that the area where the 'guard was, is already a little roughed up because of the way Westerly applied 'em:
    They used finish lacquer for glue which made the NCL plastic of the 'guard literally melt into the soundboard and then applied finish over 'em to boot.
    Made 'em hard to remove without damage.
    I suspect the 'guards showing on Guild's website right now will have removable backing type adhesive which may not bond to a rough surface very well, anyway.
    I'm gonna stick my neck out and guess that a regular woodworking glue like yellow titebond will do the job although I really don't know how it might react with adhesive already on the 'guard.
    Hopefully if I'm wrong one of the more experienced builder types here will quickly correct me.

    Note your first few posts are screened by mods so don't worry if your replies aren't showing up right away.
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    Al
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    My 1st Guild: '96 Westerly D25NT "Hally" (10-31-96 stamped on heelblock)
    #2: '01 Westerly F65ce "Blondie"
    #3: '03 Corona D40e Richie Havens "Richie"
    All bought new!

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    Thanks! The old pickguard came off easily, so the finish is still that smooth satin like the rest of the top. I'm waiting to hear back from Guild, but they said that they can take a long time so check on the forum!

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    WELCOME TO LTG, bossbrew1!
    I'll have to dig around to find the link to a site that I used to order traditional pick guards.

    Stay tuned,
    Joe
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    Welcome to LTG!

    I would not recommend a wood glue like Titebond to try to adhere a piece of plastic to wood, with or
    without adhesive, especially on a guitar top.

    The main question is what is the condition of the surface area where the new pickguard is to go?

    Does the area look or feel in any way rough, as if the original low-gloss / hand-rubbed lacquer was damaged or partially removed
    when the original PG was removed?

    Does it feel sticky anywhere, possibly from residual adhesive from the original PG?

    Is the area clean, smooth and matching the sheen of the rest of the guitar top - in other words,
    appearing as if if never did have a pick guard?

    I've seen and handled pick guards from the new Guild website - both were peel and stick with full-coverage
    adhesive on the back.

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    Thanks Bonneville88, The area is smooth and there is no adhesive. It looks like the rest of the top, and I considered getting a clear pickguard. I think I'll order the standard D type from Guild.

    Cheers!

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    And thanks Joe! I'll check those sites out before ordering...

    Dave

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    bossbrew,

    That's the best condition you could ask for.
    The self adhesive pick guard from Guild should work great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bossbrew1 View Post
    Thanks! The old pickguard came off easily, so the finish is still that smooth satin like the rest of the top. I'm waiting to hear back from Guild, but they said that they can take a long time so check on the forum!
    Ah, this popped up overnight in its original posting sequence.
    That's very interesting, I learned something if I'm correct in understanding that you removed the old 'guard yourself?
    Realized after the fact that perhaps they did apply the guard over the finish on the HR (Hand Rubbed) finish guitars because the finish itself was applied by hand.
    Otherwise I'm guessing it might have been special ordered without a PG or possibly built as part of a run ordered that way. (I thought I put that in a post last night but guess I forgot to hit "submit")
    We've seen a couple of samples of D4's that were special ordered in volume runs by chains, typically with an unusual finish color.
    Al
    "Time May Change the Technique of Music But Never Its Mission " - Rachmaninoff
    My 1st Guild: '96 Westerly D25NT "Hally" (10-31-96 stamped on heelblock)
    #2: '01 Westerly F65ce "Blondie"
    #3: '03 Corona D40e Richie Havens "Richie"
    All bought new!

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    Well, I bought it new in '93 and eventually the pickguard started to lift off. I don't remember the details. Mine is a D4-NT, but does not have the HR. Is it possible that the guard wasn't covered? The finish seems normal with the satin/matte finish.

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