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    Senior Member jp's Avatar
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    Do tell! I remember from your Elite review that the neck angle is quite steep, it has a tremelo lock nut, and a Floyd Rose. Is the feel quite different too?
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  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by jp View Post
    Do tell! I remember from your Elite review that the neck angle is quite steep, it has a tremelo lock nut, and a Floyd Rose. Is the feel quite different too?
    Yeah, the Liberator is quite flat, has an almost flat neck angle, an AMB bridge, no lock nut, and feels a lot more like a "normal" guitar of the Super-Strat persuasion. The neck is quite nice as are the frets and fretboard, but this guitar doesn't scream "LOOK AT ME!" like the Elite does. It's also got much more traditional controls, the tradeoff being only three tonal variations as opposed to the 54 options presented on the Elite.

    Mine came with gutted and replaced electronics so I'm not sure if the original came with a boost or any other EMG-type toys, but given that this is a three-pickup guitar, having only three choices seems very limiting after playing all of the other 80s Guilds I own.
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    Also, it's kind of odd to me but I think I've seen Liberator Elites for sale more often than I've seen normal Liberators.

    I love the S284 Aviator, but based on the samples in my possession I think the Liberator was a better guitar for the Super-Strat market.
    1970s: [ S70 ]
    1980s: [ BB | X79-3 | 2x X80 | X100 | S270 | S281 | 2x S284 | S285? | S300AD ]
    1980s: [ X82 | Detonator | Liberator Elite | 2x Nightbirds ]
    1990s: [ 2x S100 | X170 | X170T | SB602F | SF IV | SF V | BB | NB I | NB Dlx ]
    2000s: [ SF IV | BB-90 ]
    2010s:
    [ NS BB ]
    Amps: [ G300 | G500 | G600 ]

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    GAD, It looks like your Liberator had changed controls in addition to the pickups. Mine had a 5-position blade switch and the Tone control was a push/ pull POT that was coil split on the bridge humbucker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matsickma View Post
    GAD, It looks like your Liberator had changed controls in addition to the pickups. Mine had a 5-position blade switch and the Tone control was a push/ pull POT that was coil split on the bridge humbucker.
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    Thanks. Were they EMGs? EMGs have a feature that simulates the effect very well. I think my Setzer Bluesbird has that. Edit - yep - the DMSK: http://www.gad.net/Blog/2017/09/12/g...zer-bluesbird/

    The 3-position switch is far too limiting for my tastes so I may remove it all and rebuild it to spec, though if I'm going to the trouble I may put in some high-end passive pickups instead. I'm kind of town because I love putting old Guilds back the way they belong, but I've got so many EMG guitars at this point that they all kind of sound the same to me.

    Even the knobs on this guitar are mis-matched and incorrect, though probably not a lot of people would even notice.
    1970s: [ S70 ]
    1980s: [ BB | X79-3 | 2x X80 | X100 | S270 | S281 | 2x S284 | S285? | S300AD ]
    1980s: [ X82 | Detonator | Liberator Elite | 2x Nightbirds ]
    1990s: [ 2x S100 | X170 | X170T | SB602F | SF IV | SF V | BB | NB I | NB Dlx ]
    2000s: [ SF IV | BB-90 ]
    2010s:
    [ NS BB ]
    Amps: [ G300 | G500 | G600 ]

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    I just looked and the '88 price list shows "two single coil and one split-coil Dimarzio" for pickups.
    1970s: [ S70 ]
    1980s: [ BB | X79-3 | 2x X80 | X100 | S270 | S281 | 2x S284 | S285? | S300AD ]
    1980s: [ X82 | Detonator | Liberator Elite | 2x Nightbirds ]
    1990s: [ 2x S100 | X170 | X170T | SB602F | SF IV | SF V | BB | NB I | NB Dlx ]
    2000s: [ SF IV | BB-90 ]
    2010s:
    [ NS BB ]
    Amps: [ G300 | G500 | G600 ]

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    Mine were passive Dimarzio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAD View Post
    Also, it's kind of odd to me but I think I've seen Liberator Elites for sale more often than I've seen normal Liberators.

    I love the S284 Aviator, but based on the samples in my possession I think the Liberator was a better guitar for the Super-Strat market.
    But, what's your favorite ator overall: liber, avi, deton, elev?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AcornHouse View Post
    But, what's your favorite ator overall: liber, avi, deton, elev?
    Haven't spent enough time with the Liberator yet, but I'm leaning that way. I love the Aviator in it's quirky sort of S300 way but I really dislike top-mounted output jacks (varies by year). I think I like the Kahler better than the bridge on my Liberator, but until I get the proper arm for it I can't say for sure. Still, the fact that the bridge is so odd makes it a bit less appealing. The Liberator Elite would be my hands-down favorite if it hadn't been designed by a crazy person. The Detonator gets points for being inexpensive, robust, simple and fun. From a pure looks point of view, I like the lines and contrast of the Liberator, but that could be just because I've been hunting for one and lusting after them online for so long.

    I prefer escalators over elevators, though.
    1970s: [ S70 ]
    1980s: [ BB | X79-3 | 2x X80 | X100 | S270 | S281 | 2x S284 | S285? | S300AD ]
    1980s: [ X82 | Detonator | Liberator Elite | 2x Nightbirds ]
    1990s: [ 2x S100 | X170 | X170T | SB602F | SF IV | SF V | BB | NB I | NB Dlx ]
    2000s: [ SF IV | BB-90 ]
    2010s:
    [ NS BB ]
    Amps: [ G300 | G500 | G600 ]

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAD View Post
    I prefer escalators over elevators, though.
    Me too.
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    Escalator music:





    Last edited by adorshki; 11-29-2017 at 04:33 PM.
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