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    Me, a blasphemer...

    I might be risking being banned from this great forum after this post, but I had the privilege of owning a Dearmond
    Starfire bass AND a Guild NS starfire at the same time. The NS being the early model w only a bridge pickup.

    I sat down for hours, A-B-ing them and ended up not needing the Guild.

    I must confess, I was really taken by the harmonics, the versatility, of the Bi-sonic BUT it is in the wrong place
    if you ask me. Next will be a Starfire II when I get my hands on one. Meanwhile, my Dearmond is perfect.

    Sorry...
    Last edited by mikbass; 10-08-2017 at 07:45 PM.

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    The 'bridge-only' pickup on the NS SFI is in the same relative spot on the 30" Starfire scale that the Fender Precision pickup is on the 34" scale. That ain't bad.

    The 'new Bi-Sonic pickups' I have heard recordings of from the NS line don't sound like the original Bi-Sonics that I own or have heard. As an early '66 SFI owner, the thing I like about the sweet spot pickup is that it is part of relatively simple circuit and I don't have listen to my signal get mauled by a baritone 'suck' switch, etc.

    I never spent much time with a neck-only bass once I got out of the '70s, although the removal of the dreaded 'suck' switch might well allow me to change my mind.

    Why don't you wait until you hear the real deal pickup before your heretical ways land you in an apostatical predicament?

    And the DeArmonds are good basses.
    Quote Originally Posted by fronobulax View Post

    And I like Harry's approach.
    '66 Starfire I SB bass, '67 Mark IV pear wood, '75 Mark 4 P padauk, '00 Bluesbird black,
    '66 Thunderbird amp, '68 Thunder 1 RVT amp, '70 Superstar Combo

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    I have an NS SF-I and an NS SF-II and find myself playing the SF-II more, but usually with the selector switch in the "bridge-only" position. I just like having the option of bringing in some less trebley tone on the fly, I guess. I also replaced the rosewood bridge saddle on the SF-II with brass ones, so that could be effecting my choice as well. Both are great basses, IMO.

    Haven't ever played a DeArmond, so have no experience-based opinion as to their relative sound, but there's certainly nothing wrong with your preferring it if it does what you need. I came close to buying a sunburst one once, but I prefer unbound necks so waited for a good price on the NS SF-I instead. DeArmond SFs seem like nice enough basses.

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    Stone him! Unbeliever, outcast, unclean!
    Chris
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    '56 A-50, '57 CE-100, '60 X-150, '61 M-20, '62 F-20, '64 S-50 Jetstar, '64 Mark II, '65 SFIV, '71 S-90, '75 F-112, '75 Mark IVp, '81 M-80,
    '82 S-275, '86 T-250, '88 Detonator, '93 X-500, '97 Bluesbird, '99 F-30, '16 NS S-200 Thunderbird
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    (Of course, I just sold my Pilot and replaced it with a chea...er...inexpensive Ibanez.)
    Chris
    ---
    '56 A-50, '57 CE-100, '60 X-150, '61 M-20, '62 F-20, '64 S-50 Jetstar, '64 Mark II, '65 SFIV, '71 S-90, '75 F-112, '75 Mark IVp, '81 M-80,
    '82 S-275, '86 T-250, '88 Detonator, '93 X-500, '97 Bluesbird, '99 F-30, '16 NS S-200 Thunderbird
    '54 Masteramp, '60 99j, '63 200-S, '66 Thunderbass, '69 Thunderstar, '92 G-500
    Acorn House
    '08 Parlor, '10 Butternut Deuce, '13 Rounder, '14 Kulakeiki

    '94 G&L Legacy
    '03 Elder Lute
    ---
    http://acornhouseworkshop.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minnesota Flats View Post
    "but I prefer unbound necks"
    Just curious as to why?

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    I dunno. I just like a simple, minimal look, I guess. A totally arbitrary preference. Also prefer simple dot or Gretsch "thumbnail" position markers to blocks, parallelograms, "birds" or more elaborate inlays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minnesota Flats View Post
    I dunno. I just like a simple, minimal look, I guess. A totally arbitrary preference. Also prefer simple dot or Gretsch "thumbnail" position markers to blocks, parallelograms, "birds" or more elaborate inlays.
    What about dragons? Surely you have to like dragons!



    (Veer over)
    Chris
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    '56 A-50, '57 CE-100, '60 X-150, '61 M-20, '62 F-20, '64 S-50 Jetstar, '64 Mark II, '65 SFIV, '71 S-90, '75 F-112, '75 Mark IVp, '81 M-80,
    '82 S-275, '86 T-250, '88 Detonator, '93 X-500, '97 Bluesbird, '99 F-30, '16 NS S-200 Thunderbird
    '54 Masteramp, '60 99j, '63 200-S, '66 Thunderbass, '69 Thunderstar, '92 G-500
    Acorn House
    '08 Parlor, '10 Butternut Deuce, '13 Rounder, '14 Kulakeiki

    '94 G&L Legacy
    '03 Elder Lute
    ---
    http://acornhouseworkshop.com/

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    Senior Member davismanLV's Avatar
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    Oh HELL yeah!! Who wouldn't want dragons!!! Beautiful!! I like bling and some flash, but the funny thing is when I'm playing I see none of it. None. It's just a fretboard to me. However I don't play the electrics so..... maybe that's a difference. I dunno. But DRAGONS!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AcornHouse View Post
    Stone him! Unbeliever, outcast, unclean!
    Ditto!
    Quote Originally Posted by Neal
    I am going to hang onto this little F-20 and play it as a reminder that life is sometimes rough, but it doesn't necessarily mean that the damage you accrue along the way defines who you are.
    Quote Originally Posted by marcellis
    Growing old is a bitch.
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