Yes because it was the initial economy of scale point for any build run.So does everyone feel
Confident that at least 20 of each GSR Acoustic were made more or less ?
Does the Serial number tell what number in the build run the guitars were ?
Titebond woodglue was used as far as I remember. Not hide glue. The Reno models were built for lowest possible price (like a lot in satin finish), so hideglue is unlikely.Does anyone know if hide glue was used in the production of the GSR or Reno guitars?
Well, if you read the posted links there was at least one model were only two were produced...So no, not confident.Confident that at least 20 of each GSR Acoustic were made more or less ?
I think that is pure speculation on your side...but they started with some extras planned to allow for production fallout
I think you mix this up with the sixty 60ties anniversary model. There were never numbers published for the F-40 Cocobolo, neither in the press release nor the webpage or from any dealers. Just as example, some models gave a clear planned number already in the press release: http://guildguitars.com/guild-unveils-limited-run-gsr-d-50-dreadnought/And for some reason I've got the number "40" in my head for the F40 Cocobolos, (in recognition of the model number) but I might be hallucinating that one.
Al: How would you be able to read out of a NH serial number if the guitar was number 12 of 20 ???? The answer should be "no". Unless the label had a handwritten note on it saying number 12 of 20. Which was not the case for all models! I don't think the acoustic models had this, only the electric models.Does the Serial number tell what number in the build run the guitars were ?
Yes.
Well, if you read the posted links there was at least one model were only two were produced...So no, not confident.
I think that is pure speculation on your side...
I think you mix this up with the sixty 60ties anniversary model. There were never numbers published for the F-40 Cocobolo, neither in the press release nor the webpage or from any dealers.
Al: How would you be able to read out of a NH serial number if the guitar was number 12 of 20 ???? The answer should be "no". Unless the label had a handwritten note on it saying number 12 of 20. Which was not the case for all models! I don't think the acoustic models had this, only the electric models.
Ralf
Ok do we have this from the old thread
but there are models were as few as 2 were made by various reasons.
Usually the deal was 10 are sold in the US and Canada and 10 between Europe and Asia.
Model ----------------------Production #
GSR F-20 Cocobolo------------20
GSR F-30CE Cocobolo-------20
GSR F-30 Maple----------------20
GSR F-30 Rosewood----------20
GSR F-40 Cocobolo -----------
GSR F-40 Macassar-----------only 2
GSR F-47KC Koa---------------
GSR F-50 Koa -------------------
GSR D-40 Noir Mahogany----
GSR D-50 Cocobolo -----------20
Ok so forgive my short term memory ,
How is it known that 5 models had 20 built for sure and 1 had 2 builds and 4 other models are unknown ?
Is this eststablished from online listings ?
Does the Serial number tell what number in the build run the guitars were ?
The "for sure" is not correct. Those numbers were given in the press releases when the guitars were introduced, not when the run was finished building! Big difference. I don't know if somebody counted the runs, I counted two of the guitars but wasn't able to track down all 20 guitars. For instance on the GSR D-50 Cocobolo I know of 15 which appeared on the internet over time. For the GSR F-30R I found 13. But this is only what I was able to find, I am sure the others were produced and sold as well, just not shown on the internet.How is it known that 5 models had 20 built for sure...
And the 60th Anniversary model, which actually had the run number listed, was a Custom Shop model, not a GSR model.None of the Acoustic GSR Guitars had a label like this that I have seen.
Logic would suggest that #20 was common run for GSR models, and it sort of makes sense, no? If you're goin' to invest in tone wood, why make only a run of 2, unless there are extenuating circumstances.
See post number 33 above...And it was not "Madagascar" but "Macassar" (Ebony)!The Madagascar model only had 2 so not 20 . I'll re read the thread but not sure where the confirmation of 2 came from on that model do off go
Yes. GSR models exist since 2009 and had nothing to do with Ren at that time. Ren only joined FMIC in January 2012: http://spotlight.fender.com/newsroom/news/180/Interesting, where the GSR models started before Ren joined Guild ?
What Models were built in the Custom shop apposed to the regular build line ?
O.k., I answer both. @Chazmo: Look at the first picture in post #33 above...and you will have your answer. Anyway, please read the link with the original press release and you have all answers: http://spotlight.fender.com/newsroom/news/298/As far as the spectacular 60th anniversary F-30 model, it may not have been called a "Custom Shop" guitar, but that was right around the time the Custom Shop moniker got started....In fact, I do believe the "GSR" referred to "Guild Summit Retreat" originally but morphed into "Guild Special Run."