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    The earlier "pre-snake" headstock has always looked better to me...
    Got more genuine Guilditude, or something...

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    Interesting G37 on CL with really dark back & sides, I don't think I've seen coloration like
    this on a G37 recently. Non original tuners. Guitar looks pretty good in the photos.
    https://salem.craigslist.org/msg/d/g...256039784.html

    Another... although looks like this one has just been HAD, if you know what I mean...
    I really don't want to know what people do in bed with their guitars TYVM!
    Gotta love the strap, LOL
    https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/...240342634.html

    aaannnd another
    https://boulder.craigslist.org/msg/d...254372209.html

    and...
    https://chattanooga.craigslist.org/m...247139634.html

    There are a half-dozen G37s for sale on Reverb, including one just
    listed that looks damn-near mint!
    https://reverb.com/item/6346295-used...itar-with-case
    Last edited by Bonneville88; 08-18-2017 at 05:05 PM.

  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by D30Man View Post
    Acoustic feed back!!!!!! Yeah I have to get them to move that damn thing every time I play there but they do.
    Hey, D-Man, what is the venue, if you don't mind disclosing? And your schedule?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicArkie View Post
    Hey, D-Man, what is the venue, if you don't mind disclosing? And your schedule?
    Don't mind at all sir. This venue was Hard 8 BBQ Coppell out by DFW. My next gig is October 7 playing San Jacinto Plaza in downtown Rockwall, TX. On the square if you will. I will do a 2 part show solo acoustic first half then blossom into a trio for the second half. I will likely get hit with a Hard 8 gig in September. Not sure the date yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonneville88 View Post
    The earlier "pre-snake" headstock has always looked better to me...
    Got more genuine Guilditude, or something...
    Agreed. Not a huge fan of the snakehead. Wide tops definitely have more charm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonneville88 View Post
    The G37 is a bit of a sonic puzzle to play - also not a volume box, but
    I'd describe the mid and low-range sustain as preternatural - think piano with the sustain pedal
    permanently floored - but I haven't quite figured out how to use / leverage that to best effect.
    Have not yet played another G37 to compare, but might get around to doing exactly that
    as early as tomorrow...
    A buddy owns a '74 and his is the same.
    Longest sustain I've ever heard from an acoustic.
    He uses that property to great effect when playing plugged in with a soundhole pickup.
    One of the few guitars I've ever coveted in my life, and I already owned my D25 when I "met" it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Cohen View Post
    This has probably been discussed before. What are the technical differences between the D 30 and the G 37?
    Kinda surprised nobody's mentioned that D30's (all of 'em, I think) had 3-pc necks ('hog centerstrip I think it is, that was the norm)
    Don't think that was ever a feature of G37's.
    And Grot's got a G37 that clearly shows a maple neck, even though the '75 spec sheet shows a 'hog neck.
    http://westerlyguildguitars.com/images/g37.jpg
    G37 spec sheet here:
    http://westerlyguildguitars.com/images/g37.jpg
    D30:
    http://westerlyguildguitars.com/guitars/d30.html
    So along with Bobouz's comment that seems to confirm time frame of change in neck on G37's
    The D30 spec sheet confirms Gardman's note about scalloped bracing in D30's.
    It seem in the '90's catalogs and spec sheets at least, when bracing's not spec'd it means standard, not even shaved let alone scalloped.
    Same thing with top woods, if it's AA or better it's noted, as on the D30 spec sheet.
    G37 sheet just shows "solid spruce", and nothing in the bracing slot but have to emphasize I don't know if their "base level" standards might have been higher back then ('70'-early '80's), or if they just started expanding the info shown on the spec sheets.
    That reminds me of 1 other detail that could influence weight besides overall thickness of body woods:
    We know that for at least a while in the 70's Guild used cloth strips spaced around the sides inside the guitars as the crack prevention technique. (Don't know when that technique started)
    They went to wood strips in the '80's I think it was, possibly late '70's?.
    Also we never ever see a spec for bridge plates in Guild spec sheets, either for thickness or type of wood.
    I've seen both maple and rosewood mentioned at different times and even for different years of the same model.

    Quote Originally Posted by D30Man View Post
    Also went to the snakehead in the 90's ( not sure which year ).
    Quote Originally Posted by GardMan View Post
    Snakeheads came to many of the Guild dreads ~1987. IIRC, it was a Gruhn "thing."
    Right.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonneville88 View Post
    The earlier "pre-snake" headstock has always looked better to me...
    Got more genuine Guilditude, or something...
    We calls 'em "paddles" 'round heah, boy!

    And here's an '88 (maybe '89?) D30 with the 3pc neck and snakehead head stock:

    S/n looks to be "D3000974" which actually falls after the "921" shown in the s/n charts, but then there's nothing shown for '90 (which is probably an example of the known glitches in the s/n charts) and '91 shows "1140" as last number for that year.
    Last edited by adorshki; 08-18-2017 at 05:31 PM.
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  7. #17
    Very cool info Al!

    Was thinking of the variations of color
    I've observed on both guitars. The back and sides
    of a G37 could be natural or deeply tinted, or the entire guitar could be finished burst, but
    the burst finish on my G37 does not have anything close to the intense coloration
    of D30Man's kick-a** foot stompin' swamp-cooler killing retina-shocking wonder
    (yeah, I'm jealous)

    D30 finishes... entire guitar natural, burst, orange, have also seen one example that
    was dark cherry... any others?

  8. #18
    Al, at least some G37s did come with a 3-piece, same as the D30s...
    from the beauty on Reverb, it's a '79 according to the seller...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonneville88 View Post
    Al, at least some G37s did come with a 3-piece, same as the D30s...
    from the beauty on Reverb, it's a '79 according to the seller...

    AhA! Bet that happened when they changed the neck then, even though I should know better than to make that kind of bet anymore.
    (But it's ringing a vague bell in the memory now)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonneville88 View Post
    Very cool info Al!

    Was thinking of the variations of color
    I've observed on both guitars. The back and sides
    of a G37 could be natural or deeply tinted, or the entire guitar could be finished burst, but
    the burst finish on my G37 does not have anything close to the intense coloration
    of D30Man's kick-a** foot stompin' swamp-cooler killing retina-shocking wonder
    (yeah, I'm jealous)
    My buddy's '74 has the dark back/sides.
    Wouldn't have realized it was maple if he hadn't told me, I was pretty novice at the time and thought it was an older D25.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonneville88 View Post
    D30 finishes... entire guitar natural, burst, orange, have also seen one example that
    was dark cherry... any others?
    '01 price list shows black, and suspect that "dark cherry" was actually Trans Red but don't recall ever seeing a shot of one that color. Seem to recall Amber also, but can't confirm.
    The orange was actually "Tennessee Orange" and I seem to recall a story behind the choice of that name specifically but I forget what it was.
    Al
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    My 1st Guild: '96 Westerly D25NT "Hally" (10-31-96 stamped on heelblock)
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    #3: '03 Corona D40e Richie Havens "Richie"
    All bought new!

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