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Thread: Guild "Lawsuiit Takamine"

  1. #21
    A couple other examples of logo shenanigans (my early '80s Burny and (not mine) a '70s Greco):





    -Dave-
    1962 F-20 Troubadour
    1970 M-75 Bluesbird
    1971 S-100 "Black Cherry"
    1973 S-100 "Nature Boy"
    1990 Nightbird Custom
    2013 NS M-75 Aristocrat
    2016 NS S-200 Thunderbird

    c. 1971 Foxey Lady

  2. #22
    Never heard of either of those - very close indeed to the Gibson and Rick typography

  3. #23
    Burny made some of the Best Les Paul copies ever and were mainly sold in Japan. Greco (not to be confused with Famed Luthier Carlo Greco) also made some nice copy guitars. Not only did they copy the Ric but they also copied a few of the vintage Gretsch models very well.

    TX
    Guilds
    Hoboken-1960 X175, 1961 SF-II
    Westerly-1971 F612, 1976 G41, 2000 SF-V, 1984 S284, 1993 JF100-NT-CRV
    Nashville C.S. SFIV-3 P90 w/Trem
    Corona-2003 Fleming F47-Brz RW, 2003 D55 50th Ann. Brz RW#10 of 50, 2003 X160 R.B., 2003 SF-III-90
    Conn-2011 GSR D50 Coco, 2013 R30S, 2013 Orph 12 Fret Slope, 2013 Orph Jumbo, 2014 Orph Burst 000-12 Fret 12 String S.H. RW, 2012 F50-DTAR, 2012 F50R Burst, 2012 F50R DTAR, 2013 F512 Burst, 2014 F512-DTAR, 2014 D55-RS

    Amps
    70 T-bird 2x12
    93 Sequoia

  4. #24
    my friend has a killer semi hollow Greco from the 70s or 80s. its smaller than the Gibson ES-335 and actually it appears Gibson copied Greco on this particular model (the Gibson ES-339 which came out at some point after this Greco)

  5. #25
    Those small bodied semis were made mainly for Ibanez but also sold in Japan by Greco. This was right around the time Greco began exporting guitars themselves. I recently picked up a pair of the Ibanezes (one plain, one fancy) and they are indeed top-class instruments. They predate the ES-339 by about 25 years. My 335 is lucky it has great sentimental value to me, otherwise it'd be out the door.

    -Dave-
    1962 F-20 Troubadour
    1970 M-75 Bluesbird
    1971 S-100 "Black Cherry"
    1973 S-100 "Nature Boy"
    1990 Nightbird Custom
    2013 NS M-75 Aristocrat
    2016 NS S-200 Thunderbird

    c. 1971 Foxey Lady

  6. #26
    What a cool subject, damned interesting guitar history...

    ... fair to say the "golden age" of good-to-great "made-in-Japan" copies is mid-70's to mid-80's?

  7. #27
    That was pretty much the Golden Age of Japanese Guitar Making Bonneville88. The factories that some of the best came out of were the Matsumoku factory, the Fuji Gen Gakki Factory, and the Terada Factory (which today produces all of the Gretsch Professional series of guitars like the Falcons and Country Clubs). Several different companies used the same Factories. Takamine actually made all of their guitars in their own facilities. Some companies were even sneaky enough to buy up surplus wood supplies from the American guitar companies they were copying.

    TX
    Guilds
    Hoboken-1960 X175, 1961 SF-II
    Westerly-1971 F612, 1976 G41, 2000 SF-V, 1984 S284, 1993 JF100-NT-CRV
    Nashville C.S. SFIV-3 P90 w/Trem
    Corona-2003 Fleming F47-Brz RW, 2003 D55 50th Ann. Brz RW#10 of 50, 2003 X160 R.B., 2003 SF-III-90
    Conn-2011 GSR D50 Coco, 2013 R30S, 2013 Orph 12 Fret Slope, 2013 Orph Jumbo, 2014 Orph Burst 000-12 Fret 12 String S.H. RW, 2012 F50-DTAR, 2012 F50R Burst, 2012 F50R DTAR, 2013 F512 Burst, 2014 F512-DTAR, 2014 D55-RS

    Amps
    70 T-bird 2x12
    93 Sequoia

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Quantum Strummer View Post
    Those small bodied semis were made mainly for Ibanez but also sold in Japan by Greco. This was right around the time Greco began exporting guitars themselves. I recently picked up a pair of the Ibanezes (one plain, one fancy) and they are indeed top-class instruments. They predate the ES-339 by about 25 years. My 335 is lucky it has great sentimental value to me, otherwise it'd be out the door.

    -Dave-
    Dave, nice! heres a video of my friends. pretty sure she changed the pickups, I think to Duncan's. Not sure what was in there prior, or if they were original.

    m

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by mavuser View Post
    Dave, nice! heres a video of my friends. pretty sure she changed the pickups, I think to Duncan's. Not sure what was in there prior, or if they were original.
    Cool, I'll give it a look & listen this evening (out & about now and left my earbuds at home). Dunno what the pickups would've been in this model. Greco reserved the super duper DRY (aka Super 58) pickup for its Les Paul copies, I think, while Ibanez used the 58s in just about all of its Artist series models including the mini semis.

    -Dave-
    1962 F-20 Troubadour
    1970 M-75 Bluesbird
    1971 S-100 "Black Cherry"
    1973 S-100 "Nature Boy"
    1990 Nightbird Custom
    2013 NS M-75 Aristocrat
    2016 NS S-200 Thunderbird

    c. 1971 Foxey Lady

  10. #30
    tx... cool... great info - will be looking at guitars of this period with new appreciation, different
    eyes & ears from here on out

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