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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Broes View Post
    You know, I think they *are* Franzes. Look at the lone screw in between the D and G polepieces. That's how a Franz pickup cover mounts.
    You're right! And so the long tradition of incorrect ad copy from Guild is maintained.
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    I think it's correct to say that what we're calling Franz pickups are not made by Franz anymore. If I'm not mistaken, the company that made Franz is long out of business.
    Former Guild employee and proud owner of an '82 F-30 acoustic, a '17 S-200 and a '15 Starfire IV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dapmdave View Post
    100% with you. Try selling the T-Bird, with all the knobs & switches and the quirky shape. It's no walk in the park.

    I wonder how many LTGers have bought new T-Birds.
    Two or three.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumBob View Post
    I think it's correct to say that what we're calling Franz pickups are not made by Franz anymore. If I'm not mistaken, the company that made Franz is long out of business.
    Of course. I don't think any of the original companies or anyone having to do with them are still involved with the various brand names involved with Guild - Guild itself, Franz, DeArmond, or Hagström. Well...maybe Hagström (?), but they have their stuff made in Korea and/or China so the point is moot.

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    I picked up a burst Thunderbird on eBay when they just started getting listed. Reissued Hagstrom vibrato gave some fits and I am considering installing a vintage one.
    I got a coupon and discount from GC on a new black one that will be delivered tomorrow. That one is getting a set of DeArmond pups installed in place of mini humbuckers.For those who recall the very original Guild marketing release for the Thunderbird...it had the body shape of the S-100 Polara but had block neck inlays and DeArmond pickups. Somewhere between the initial info release and the actual release the Gumby body shape, Jaguar controls and mini humbuckers were added. It with that in mind that I am installing the DeArmonds. I really like the feel of a Thunderbird and look of the body shape since the first time I saw one in grade school. I thing Thunderbirds cost around $400 back in 1963. In todays $ that's probably $4000!
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    I've played a couple '60s T-birds. One of the things that stood out to me with both was the Hagstrom wiggler: it went out of tune easily. So I'm not sure a vintage unit will be any more reliable than the current ones.

    The body shape is the T-bird's best feature IMO. Even if you think it looks weird, just pick one up and play it. For me it's about the most well-balanced and comfortable solidbody around.

    I like the idea of getting a second T-bird and doing some pickup experimenting. I just snagged a second Jazzmaster, another well-balanced and comfy guitar, for this purpose.

    [Edit: actually someone beat me to the Jazzmaster…drat! But T-bird #2 is back in play. White would be nice…]

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    Quote Originally Posted by matsickma View Post
    . Reissued Hagstrom vibrato gave some fits and I am considering installing a vintage one.
    I haven't tried it, but I'm pretty sure a heavier spring would work wonders on that.

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    As for the Franz reproductions, I think I'd really rather have ordinary soapbar P-90s in a T-Bird. I like the Franzs in my Aristocrat and have no strong desire to swap them out (though I am curious...), but I know there are some phenomenal P-90s available. I think if I were to buy one of the new T-Bird STs with Franzes I would probably end up routing to accept a P-90.
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    matsickma...What are your plans for the mini humbuckers? I might be interested in taking them off your hands. I love this pickups.
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    Hi DrumBob,

    I didn't give it much thought about the future use of the mini hb pups once they are pulled out of a MIK Thunderbird. Since these pickups won't have mounting rings mounting them to a guitar will have some issues.

    Are mini hb pickup mounting rings available?

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