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  1. #21
    According to Hans the X500 is from 2001. Does anyone else have a 200x X500? If so, does yours have a 1 5/8" neck?
    S100s: [ 1997 red ]
    S300s: [ 1981 ]
    X170s: [ 1994 SB ]
    X500s: [2001 P90-T]
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    Bluesbirds: [ 1997 red | 2016 Iced Tea ]
    Nightbirds: [ GG 1986 Flamed 'burst | 1988ish curly lava-burst ]
    Non-Guilds: [ Meh ]

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  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by GAD View Post
    Check out this bit of weirdness on the X500T. Look at those routes. If I didn't know better I'd say that this guitar was built with humbucker routes and someone expanded them to fit the P90s.

    Gary,

    No, if the guitar was routed for humbuckers first, then the cut-outs would be at least 1-9/16" wide, which it doesn't look they are!

    It's just how they did it and it doesn't look pretty!

    Sincerely,

    Hans Moust
    www.guitarsgalore.nl

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by hansmoust View Post
    Gary,

    No, if the guitar was routed for humbuckers first, then the cut-outs would be at least 1-9/16" wide, which it doesn't look they are!

    It's just how they did it and it doesn't look pretty!

    Sincerely,

    Hans Moust
    www.guitarsgalore.nl

    Ahh, the old "It's just how they did it" answer. My dad loved that one!

    It's kind of sad to see on a guitar like this. Of course, it doesn't affect the tone or playability or anything else for that matter. It's just lame.
    S100s: [ 1997 red ]
    S300s: [ 1981 ]
    X170s: [ 1994 SB ]
    X500s: [2001 P90-T]
    Starfires: [ III-90 2002 'burst | IV 1998 blond | IV 2000 blond ]
    Bluesbirds: [ 1997 red | 2016 Iced Tea ]
    Nightbirds: [ GG 1986 Flamed 'burst | 1988ish curly lava-burst ]
    Non-Guilds: [ Meh ]

    My Blogs: GADsGuilds.com | Blog | Cozy Tales

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by GAD View Post
    Ahh, the old "It's just how they did it" answer. My dad loved that one!

    It's kind of sad to see on a guitar like this. Of course, it doesn't affect the tone or playability or anything else for that matter. It's just lame.
    That's what you get for peeking!
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  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by GAD View Post
    Ahh, the old "It's just how they did it" answer.
    Yes, but that doesn't mean that it was the spec. There had been a time that this would not have happened!

    Sincerely,

    Hans Moust
    www.guitarsgalore.nl

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by AcornHouse View Post
    That's what you get for peeking!
    LOL - fair enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by hansmoust View Post
    Yes, but that doesn't mean that it was the spec. There had been a time that this would not have happened!

    Sincerely,

    Hans Moust
    www.guitarsgalore.nl
    Understood. I do find it odd that my 2002 is so perfectly routed. Maybe the person who did this one got fired.
    S100s: [ 1997 red ]
    S300s: [ 1981 ]
    X170s: [ 1994 SB ]
    X500s: [2001 P90-T]
    Starfires: [ III-90 2002 'burst | IV 1998 blond | IV 2000 blond ]
    Bluesbirds: [ 1997 red | 2016 Iced Tea ]
    Nightbirds: [ GG 1986 Flamed 'burst | 1988ish curly lava-burst ]
    Non-Guilds: [ Meh ]

    My Blogs: GADsGuilds.com | Blog | Cozy Tales

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by GAD View Post
    I do find it odd that my 2002 is so perfectly routed.
    Well ......... different factory location, different tools and different supervisor!

    Maybe the person who did this one got fired.
    I can assure you that more than 95% of the workers at the Westerly plant lost their jobs soon after your X-500T was completed!

    Sincerely,

    Hans Moust
    www.guitarsgalore
    Last edited by hansmoust; 12-17-2016 at 08:06 PM.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by hansmoust View Post
    Well ......... different factory location, different tools and different supervisor!



    I can assure you that more than 95% of the workers at the Westerly plant lost their jobs soon after your X-500T was completed!

    Sincerely,

    Hans Moust
    www.guitarsgalore

    Gah - I'm an idiot. I've been traveling a lot and I'm so tired that I don't even know what time zone I'm in and totally didn't click on the "last of the Westerly/first of the Corona" thing.

    So the 2001 X500T is the ultimate Friday Afternoon guitar as in "hurry up and finish it so we can let you go and give your job to someone in California." while the 2002 is the "Thank God for my new job I'm going to make the best guitars EVER!" guitar.
    S100s: [ 1997 red ]
    S300s: [ 1981 ]
    X170s: [ 1994 SB ]
    X500s: [2001 P90-T]
    Starfires: [ III-90 2002 'burst | IV 1998 blond | IV 2000 blond ]
    Bluesbirds: [ 1997 red | 2016 Iced Tea ]
    Nightbirds: [ GG 1986 Flamed 'burst | 1988ish curly lava-burst ]
    Non-Guilds: [ Meh ]

    My Blogs: GADsGuilds.com | Blog | Cozy Tales

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcornHouse View Post
    That's what you get for peeking!
    LOL...so true! In the past I had a number of American-made Gretsch guitars...1960's made Tennesseeans, Nashvilles and Country Gents...and they looked great until you "popped the hood"...take out a pickup and get a splinter from the rough cut-out. But you never saw any of that with it all buttoned up!
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  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by GAD View Post
    So the 2001 X500T is the ultimate Friday Afternoon guitar as in "hurry up and finish it so we can let you go and give your job to someone in California." while the 2002 is the "Thank God for my new job I'm going to make the best guitars EVER!" guitar.
    That would make for a great movie, but in reality the following would be closer to the truth:

    At Guild they used a jig to rout out the tops of the hollowbody electrics to allow for the pickups to be installed. They had a specific jig for routing out the holes for the humbuckers, but the P-90s were a recent addition on the X-500, and they never made the proper jig for it.
    The worker would drill 4 holes at the corners and the rest of the material was removed free-hand with a router, which is the reason why it looks like it does.

    That's not an excuse, but I'm quite sure that a different supervisor would have made all the difference!

    Sincerely,

    Hans Moust
    www.guitarsgalore.nl
    Last edited by hansmoust; 12-18-2016 at 10:07 AM. Reason: correction

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