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    Stanley Clarke and Armand Sabal Lecco

    I was listening to an old album of Stanley Clarke and I did a little YouTube "research." If you guys haven't seen this, take a look at 7:50 in to see Armand go nuts, and make *sure* you continue through the 10:00 minute mark and watch Stanley chime in with him.

    I just think this is pretty f'in cool.

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    I am going to hang onto this little F-20 and play it as a reminder that life is sometimes rough, but it doesn't necessarily mean that the damage you accrue along the way defines who you are.
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    Growing old is a bitch.
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    1994 JF-30-12Bld (Westerly),
    2006 F-512 (Tacoma),
    2010 F-212XL STD (New Hartford) - "Connie"
    2014 Orpheum 12 OOO SHRW (New Hartford)

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    Interesting. Lots of interesting right hand techniques and I keep coming back to that Alembic with the red body.
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    What he said.

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    Just fun to watch a couple of insane bass players fronting a band, fro. Tons of slapping and whatever. I dig it! Too bad they're not Guilds. ;)
    Quote Originally Posted by Neal
    I am going to hang onto this little F-20 and play it as a reminder that life is sometimes rough, but it doesn't necessarily mean that the damage you accrue along the way defines who you are.
    Quote Originally Posted by marcellis
    Growing old is a bitch.
    Guild 12-strings:
    1978 G-312NT (Westerly) - "Franzz",
    1994 JF-30-12Bld (Westerly),
    2006 F-512 (Tacoma),
    2010 F-212XL STD (New Hartford) - "Connie"
    2014 Orpheum 12 OOO SHRW (New Hartford)

    Non-Guild 12s:
    1970 Martin D-12-20
    1980 Ibanez AW-75 (Series I)
    1984 Taylor 655

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazmo View Post
    Just fun to watch a couple of insane bass players fronting a band, fro. Tons of slapping and whatever. I dig it! Too bad they're not Guilds. ;)
    I thought about starting a thread about slapping Guilds and realized the most popular answer would be a Pilot. My extremely limited experience trying to slap suggests that the harp bridge with saddles that can slide perpendicular to the strings is probably not the best for the technique. That leaves the Pilot and a few less popular models from the late 70's and early 80's.
    Quote Originally Posted by mgod View Post
    What he said.

    '67 Starfire I Bass (Cherry)
    '71 JS II Bass (Walnut)
    '82 B-50 Acoustic Bass (Natural)
    '87 Pilot (Black)
    '13 Newark Street Starfire Bass (Cherry)
    '16 Betts Bass "Walnut Bottom"

    LMG I, II, III

    This space available.

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    UOTE=fronobulax;1744621]I thought about starting a thread about slapping Guilds and realized the most popular answer would be a Pilot. My extremely limited experience trying to slap suggests that the harp bridge with saddles that can slide perpendicular to the strings is probably not the best for the technique. That leaves the Pilot and a few less popular models from the late 70's and early 80's.[/QUOTE]

    Right on as usual.

    Slapping requires a shark jaw grip on the strings, from both ends (nut and saddle) to give it this cool "ping" effect.
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    S100 1974 (carved)
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    In this world there are always those who march to the sound of a different drummer. These wayward marchers go off and break boundaries. Blistering leads on an acoustic. Purple spandex, and proud of it. Gibsons on a Guild forum. But the world is a better place for their pioneering efforts.

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    Bluesy, great to hear from you!!!

    So, forgive the ignorance, guys, but this begs the question for me .. why *wouldn't* you want an electric bass to have "shark jaw" grip on both ends of the string? I mean, since we're not talking about acoustic sound here (or are we??), what's the value of a saddle that can move?
    Quote Originally Posted by Neal
    I am going to hang onto this little F-20 and play it as a reminder that life is sometimes rough, but it doesn't necessarily mean that the damage you accrue along the way defines who you are.
    Quote Originally Posted by marcellis
    Growing old is a bitch.
    Guild 12-strings:
    1978 G-312NT (Westerly) - "Franzz",
    1994 JF-30-12Bld (Westerly),
    2006 F-512 (Tacoma),
    2010 F-212XL STD (New Hartford) - "Connie"
    2014 Orpheum 12 OOO SHRW (New Hartford)

    Non-Guild 12s:
    1970 Martin D-12-20
    1980 Ibanez AW-75 (Series I)
    1984 Taylor 655

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazmo View Post
    So, forgive the ignorance, guys, but this begs the question for me .. why *wouldn't* you want an electric bass to have "shark jaw" grip on both ends of the string? I mean, since we're not talking about acoustic sound here (or are we??), what's the value of a saddle that can move?
    Hey Charlie! Hope all is well...

    The answer is in the quest my friend: Some are after a sharp attack (not shark) with a metallic ring to the sound and favor the big heavy steel or brass bridges and nuts, while some are after the big round sound and favor less of an angle at the bridge and wood as a material, as well as big humbuckers.

    Of course, the strings have a lot to do in the equation also.

    (You know I've been missing a good string thread)
    D25BR 1972
    DV72 1994
    F212 1975
    S100 1973
    S100 1974 (carved)
    Starfire IV 1966
    X175 1978
    Jetstar 1974

    Quote Originally Posted by fronobulax View Post
    In this world there are always those who march to the sound of a different drummer. These wayward marchers go off and break boundaries. Blistering leads on an acoustic. Purple spandex, and proud of it. Gibsons on a Guild forum. But the world is a better place for their pioneering efforts.

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    All is indeed well, bluesy! Best to you as well, buddy!

    Cool. Thanks for 'splainin' it to me! :)

    (have we ever had a bass string thread? is it time? :) )
    Quote Originally Posted by Neal
    I am going to hang onto this little F-20 and play it as a reminder that life is sometimes rough, but it doesn't necessarily mean that the damage you accrue along the way defines who you are.
    Quote Originally Posted by marcellis
    Growing old is a bitch.
    Guild 12-strings:
    1978 G-312NT (Westerly) - "Franzz",
    1994 JF-30-12Bld (Westerly),
    2006 F-512 (Tacoma),
    2010 F-212XL STD (New Hartford) - "Connie"
    2014 Orpheum 12 OOO SHRW (New Hartford)

    Non-Guild 12s:
    1970 Martin D-12-20
    1980 Ibanez AW-75 (Series I)
    1984 Taylor 655

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazmo View Post
    what's the value of a saddle that can move?
    I'm not sure why Hagstrom chose that design but the fact that you almost never see moving saddles on modern bridge suggests that was one of those "seemed like a good idea at the time" things.
    Quote Originally Posted by mgod View Post
    What he said.

    '67 Starfire I Bass (Cherry)
    '71 JS II Bass (Walnut)
    '82 B-50 Acoustic Bass (Natural)
    '87 Pilot (Black)
    '13 Newark Street Starfire Bass (Cherry)
    '16 Betts Bass "Walnut Bottom"

    LMG I, II, III

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazmo View Post
    (have we ever had a bass string thread? is it time? :) )
    It's hard to have a bass string thread when some folks get a decade or two out of a set of strings. We have had some veers that could have grown into string threads but they tended to come back to whether TI strings were worth the price and if not, what were the cheaper alternatives? The choices seem to be much more limited. Round vs. flat vs. tape, gauge and possibly tension. If I want a particular sound , once I have picked between round, flat or tape everything else I do involves hand technique and electronics and not changing strings :-)
    Quote Originally Posted by mgod View Post
    What he said.

    '67 Starfire I Bass (Cherry)
    '71 JS II Bass (Walnut)
    '82 B-50 Acoustic Bass (Natural)
    '87 Pilot (Black)
    '13 Newark Street Starfire Bass (Cherry)
    '16 Betts Bass "Walnut Bottom"

    LMG I, II, III

    This space available.

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