Noobie with 80's Guild shredder
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SFIV1967
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Welcome to LTG! Yes, I also think it is a S-284 Aviator. EDIT: Wrong again...See posts below...
Ralf
Ralf
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Cool guitar! Welcome!
walrus
walrus
The Guilds of Grot
Enlightened Member
The S-284 Aviator has equal cut-aways and a different offset headstock.
Here's mine:
It might be an early Flyer since it has symmetrical lower bouts.
Like this:
But since it has the Offset headstock, it might be an S-281.
Only Hans knows for sure and it's going to be a great part of Volume II to get all these guitars explained!
Here's mine:
It might be an early Flyer since it has symmetrical lower bouts.
Like this:
But since it has the Offset headstock, it might be an S-281.
Only Hans knows for sure and it's going to be a great part of Volume II to get all these guitars explained!
txbumper57
Enlightened Member
Cool Guitar! I don't think it is an Aviator though. Every S284 Aviator I have seen has a Set Neck. I believe mine was the 23rd made according to the serial number so it is a fairly early production model. Here are a few pics of my All Black 1984 NOS S284 Aviator.
The Guilds of Grot
Enlightened Member
The Guilds of Grot
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Most of the Flyers I've seen, (including mine) have the offset lower bouts like this:
You know, looking at how thin the "horns" are. This looks like a Liberator with an offset headstock.
Here is my Liberator Elite and while it's the same body shape, The elite is bound and has a radiused top.
I'l have to check my catalogs when I get home.
Hey Telechamp, could you tell us the serial number?
You know, looking at how thin the "horns" are. This looks like a Liberator with an offset headstock.
Here is my Liberator Elite and while it's the same body shape, The elite is bound and has a radiused top.
I'l have to check my catalogs when I get home.
Hey Telechamp, could you tell us the serial number?
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SFIV1967
Venerated Member
Kurt,
so isn't the OP's white guitar the same model that Hans bought in 2008? Where he said: "It's not unique but it's pretty rare."
Hans won't help us here until Volume II comes out I am afraid...
And Hans said back in 2008 it is a "*ator" model, so not a Flyer. But not a "Detonator" either (he said 5 letters out of "Pointyator" are correct). What's left: "Aviator", "Liberator". I can't remember more "*ator" models. The Liberator however had a glued on neck...as well as the Aviator. And we look for a bolt on neck. So the riddle continues...
Ralf
so isn't the OP's white guitar the same model that Hans bought in 2008? Where he said: "It's not unique but it's pretty rare."
Hans won't help us here until Volume II comes out I am afraid...
And Hans said back in 2008 it is a "*ator" model, so not a Flyer. But not a "Detonator" either (he said 5 letters out of "Pointyator" are correct). What's left: "Aviator", "Liberator". I can't remember more "*ator" models. The Liberator however had a glued on neck...as well as the Aviator. And we look for a bolt on neck. So the riddle continues...
Ralf
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The Guilds of Grot
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Ah, now we're cooking Ralf. Definitely the same model guitar!
Amazing that you could remember that and bring it up.
So in the literature that I have there are three "ator" guitars listed. A Detonator, a Liberator II and a Liberator Elite. Could it be possible that the guitar in question is a Liberator I?
Same body style but with a bolt-on neck?
(Somewhere Hans is snickering at all this.)
Amazing that you could remember that and bring it up.
So in the literature that I have there are three "ator" guitars listed. A Detonator, a Liberator II and a Liberator Elite. Could it be possible that the guitar in question is a Liberator I?
Same body style but with a bolt-on neck?
(Somewhere Hans is snickering at all this.)
SFIV1967
Venerated Member
Maybe, but I also thought they had set necks...I hope Hans counted right when he stated "5 letters out of 10 of "Pointyator" are correct"
Lets see again:
Aviator: Pointyator (6 letters match, well or 5 depending how the A is counted)
Detonator: Pointyator (7 letters match
Liberator: Pointyator (5 letters match)
So yes, only Liberator would match. But the 9/15/87 pricelist shows "Glued in mahogany neck". But the OPs guitar has a bolt on maple neck (which would match the Detonator...)
I have not seen a "Liberator I" yet, unless that is one.
But due to the headstock and if it is indeed the same model Hans bought I assume it is not even in any catalog or pricelist.
Ralf
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txbumper57
Enlightened Member
All these pictures of Guild Shredders have me thinking about how we can all change the world withe just one Power Ballad! Zebra Striped Fur and Spandex Unite!
jcwu
Senior Member
Hello!
New guy here. I've got an 80's USA Guild "shredder" - although I'm unsure of the exact model - but I've had it for 15 years or more.. Anyway, decided to join the party. Here she is:
Nice!!! Reminds me of a white Charvel I used to own, when I was into the pointy headstocks and divebombs.
SFIV1967
Venerated Member
Thanks for the new pictures! It might help if you tell us what is written/stamped on the back of the headstock, I see something like XX 101 below the high e-string tuner? And what are the two letters the serial number starts with?
Also those backplates are yet different from anything I can find on other Guild pictures...
Hans is the only one who can clearly identify your guitar but he told us multiple times we have to wait for his second book as those guitars are a big part of it. But we all have fun looking at it and guessing, so stay tuned and patient! It might take some month or even years but you will get an answer!
Ralf
Also those backplates are yet different from anything I can find on other Guild pictures...
Hans is the only one who can clearly identify your guitar but he told us multiple times we have to wait for his second book as those guitars are a big part of it. But we all have fun looking at it and guessing, so stay tuned and patient! It might take some month or even years but you will get an answer!
Ralf
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Sure, no problem. I'll post some more photos under the hood.
I bought the guitar used about 12-15 years ago from our drummer at the time, who also bought it used..
Yes, Hans has contacted me re this guitar.
The Guilds of Grot
Enlightened Member
Ah, so now you know what model it is, but you've been sworn to secrecy! :wink:
adorshki
Reverential Member
Oooooooooohhh!
Out of respect for the value of his research as an intellectual property, we won't ask you to spill the "identity" beans.
Unless he okays it.
:friendly_wink:
(ahhh, I see Grot and I were thinking the same thing at the same time)
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