Emerald Green?

Guildadelphia · Jun 13, 2015

Some years ago I saw a vintage single cut Starfire in Emerald Green (it belonged to the late Howard Herbert, owner of small neighborhood music shop in Philadelphia). Mr. Herbert, who had been a Guild dealer, said the guitar was a "Custom Order" and had DeArmond pu's, a Melita bridge and a wider nut width. As I recall, the green was very dark, almost black. Very cool guitar.

Default · Jun 13, 2015

I remember that guitar!

SFIV1967 · Jun 13, 2015

Alainlafrance got such a dark EmeraldStar from 1961:

Or that 1962 one from zhivago:

Ralf

Los Angeles · Jun 14, 2015

twocorgis said:
Maybe it's just the lighting, but something tells me CMG did quite get the color right. Sure looks more like Kelly green to me. Yuk!

This is a photo using an Instagram app with a "color filter" selected.

The fastest way to know that a "social media specialist" is using Instagram is the square format. The next thing to look for is an otherworldly unnatural color scheme. This photo has both.

The guys in charge of Guild's social media postings are in an office in Santa Monica. They need to learn the importance of getting every fact, color and specification correct on every public representation of the products.

They once put a post on their blog about Carl Newman (of Destroyer and New Pornographers fame) and his 70s M-75 Bluesbird. They included a link as a sort of "buy this guitar" promotion, and linked to a Newark Street Aristocrat. The only thing those two guitars had in common was the M-75 designation.

I think the social media folks have a lot of learning to do, and need to turn off thier stupid Instagram filters before customers get pissed when the guitars that arrive on customers' doorsteps are a completely different color from what they were expecting.

Just my two cents.

twocorgis · Jun 14, 2015

Los Angeles said:
This is a photo using an Instagram app with a "color filter" selected.

The fastest way to know that a "social media specialist" is using Instagram is the square format. The next thing to look for is an otherworldly unnatural color scheme. This photo has both.

The guys in charge of Guild's social media postings are in an office in Santa Monica. They need to learn the importance of getting every fact, color and specification correct on every public representation of the products.

They once put a post on their blog about Carl Newman (of Destroyer and New Pornographers fame) and his 70s M-75 Bluesbird. They included a link as a sort of "buy this guitar" promotion, and linked to a Newark Street Aristocrat. The only thing those two guitars had in common was the M-75 designation.

I think the social media folks have a lot of learning to do, and need to turn off thier stupid Instagram filters before customers get pissed when the guitars that arrive on customers' doorsteps are a completely different color from what they were expecting.

Just my two cents.

Great analysis Kent. I'm not an Instagram member, and didn't know that. Interesting, because nothing is square aspect ratio anymore, is it? Sounds like CMG has some learning to do here.

Los Angeles · Jun 14, 2015

Murphy's law just smacked me upside the head.

I made a factual error on a post where I chided someone else for getting thier facts messed up. Carl Newman was not a member of Destroyer, but New Pornographers band mate Dan Behar was.

:ambivalence: :ambivalence:

guildman63 · Jun 14, 2015

Los Angeles said:
Murphy's law just smacked me upside the head.

I made a factual error on a post where I chided someone else for getting thier facts messed up. Carl Newman was not a member of Destroyer, but New Pornographers band mate Dan Behar was.

:ambivalence: :ambivalence:

Please give us all of your Guilds and never come round here again! :highly_amused:

jp · Jun 15, 2015

Los Angeles said:
They once put a post on their blog about Carl Newman (of Destroyer and New Pornographers fame) and his 70s M-75 Bluesbird.

Just to bring this thread full circle, here's a pic of John Collins (also of Destroyer) and Carl with a trio of Guilds, one of which is most certainly a 60s Emerald Green Starfire V.

I posted these once a while back in another thread. Here's a better pic of the Guilds.

twocorgis · Jun 15, 2015

Looking at those photos it confirms that vintage emerald green Starfires, regardless of variety, still look black in anything other than bright light.

Sal · Jun 16, 2015

Man, that old dark olive green Starfire II, now that's for me!

SFIV1967 said:
Ralf

jp · Jun 17, 2015

twocorgis said:
Looking at those photos it confirms that vintage emerald green Starfires, regardless of variety, still look black in anything other than bright light.

Check out Doyle Dykes ripping on this dark emerald beauty. The NS Starfires sure don't seem to have the same deep luster. Maybe it was intentional so that they wouldn't be confused for ebony?

adorshki · Jun 18, 2015

Los Angeles said:
I think the social media folks have a lot of learning to do, and need to turn off their stupid Instagram filters before customers get pissed when the guitars that arrive on customers' doorsteps are a completely different color from what they were expecting.

More great photographic forensics!
Somebody oughta run right down to Oxnard and tell 'em in person.
Somebody from here.
If you bring donuts they might actually pay attention.
:friendly_wink:

guildman63 · Jun 18, 2015

Give me donuts and I will pay attention. Glazed, please.

parker_knoll · Jun 22, 2015

jp said:
Check out Doyle Dykes ripping on this dark emerald beauty. The NS Starfires sure don't seem to have the same deep luster. Maybe it was intentional so that they wouldn't be confused for ebony?

loved this. great fingerpicked version of Caravan

Synchro · Jun 23, 2015

sfiv1967 said:
or that 1962 one from zhivago:

ralf

omg!

BillyCrash · Jun 23, 2015

twocorgis said:
Maybe it's just the lighting, but something tells me CMG did quite get the color right. Sure looks more like Kelly green to me. Yuk!

Ha, I actually like this emerald green color! It's like hanging with the Oz! (wizard, that is).

dapmdave · Jun 23, 2015

Well... my local Guild dealer ordered and received one of these green Starfires. I stopped in today for a look-see and took a few pictures.

So, there you have it. I found it to be much closer than the original picture in this post, but very dark and still not quite right.

Perhaps if I'd taken it outside in direct sunlight it would be closer?

guildman63 · Jun 23, 2015

:hypnotysed: Love it and want it!

twocorgis · Jun 23, 2015

dapmdave said:
Well... my local Guild dealer ordered and received one of these green Starfires. I stopped in today for a look-see and took a few pictures.

So, there you have it. I found it to be much closer than the original picture in this post, but very dark and still not quite right.

Perhaps if I'd taken it outside in direct sunlight it would be closer?

Thanks for the recon Dave!

That's still a couple of shades lighter than Greenie, but some of that is due to the yellowing of the lacquer over 47 years, as Walter pointed out.

fuman · Jul 13, 2015

jp said:
Check out Doyle Dykes ripping on this dark emerald beauty. The NS Starfires sure don't seem to have the same deep luster. Maybe it was intentional so that they wouldn't be confused for ebony?

Great Googly Moogly!

I kinda miss the harp tailpiece but will forgive all if they make a SF XII. I owned a '67 in emerald. It was my first good guitar.

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